|
Good Morning,
Can anyone help with the above gentleman who is my 3rd G Grandfather? He married in 1785 to Sarah Burkitt and marriage document states father was William Aldam and mother Mary both deceased at the marriage. They were Quakers and married at Balby Meeting House.
We found a William Aldam Snr 1739 but that makes him only 13 when William jnr was born. Also William Snr marriage to Mary Potter if it's the correct one was 1754, 2 years after William Jnr's birth.
I am on Ancestry also and quite a few people have put these dates down but I do like to be certain.
Grateful for any help.
Best wishes Margaret.
|
|
For our reference - William's birth:
William Aldam
in the England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837
Name: William Aldam
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1752
Birth Place: Upperthorp, Yorkshire , England
Gender: Male
Father: William Aldam
Mother: Mary Aldam
Meeting: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster)
Piece Description: Piece 1114: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster) (1646-1807, 1646-1776)
And the marriage:
William Aldam
in the England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837
Name: William Aldam
Event Type: Marriage
Gender: Male
Father: William Aldam
Mother: Mary
Spouse: Sarah Burkitt
Marriage Date: 14 Mar 1785
Marriage Place: Yorkshire , England
Father-in-law: John Burkitt
Mother-in-law: Sarah
Meeting: Monthly Meeting of Balby (comprising Sheffield, Doncaster, etc)
Piece Description: Piece 0152: Monthly Meeting of Balby (comprising Sheffield, Doncaster, etc): Marriages (1776-1794)
|
|
There is this possible marriage of parents (although quite a while before the birth of William jnr.):-
First name(s) William
Last name Aldam
Marriage year 1724
Marriage date 14 May 1724
Marriage place as transcibed Sheffield
Marriage parish as transcibed Balby
Marriage county as transcribed York
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Smith
Meeting place Balby
Monthly meeting Balby
Quarterly meeting Yorkshire
County Yorkshire
Country England
Archive reference RG6/1115
Description YORKSHIRE: Monthly Meeting of Balby (comprising Sheffield, Doncaster, etc): Marriages
Kath. x
|
|
Just posting as a possibility for the parents' marriage - no idea if correct or not:
William Aldam
in the England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837
Name: William Aldam
Event Type: Marriage
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary Smith
Marriage Date: 14 Jul 1724
Marriage Place: Sheafield, Yorkshire , England
Father-in-law: Stephen Smith
Meeting: Monthly Meeting of Balby
Piece Description: Piece 1376: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster) (1646-1729, 1646-1729)
The date of the above is the date it was entered in a longer record - a full page of handwriting.
The actual marriage date is below.
Not sure if March or May. Did Quakers count months differently? The record above says ". . . .the 14th day of the 3rd month, called May . . ."
William Aldam
in the England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837
Name: William Aldam
Event Type: Marriage
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary Smith
Marriage Date: 14 May 1724 (or March ???? Image wording copied below)
Marriage Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire , England
Father-in-law: Stephen Smith
Meeting: Monthly Meeting of Balby (comprising Sheffield, Doncaster, etc)
Piece Description: Piece 1115: Monthly Meeting of Balby (comprising Sheffield, Doncaster, etc): Marriages (1655-1837)
William Aldam of Daniel Hill in the parish of Sheffield, tanner, and Mary Smith, daughter of Stephen Smith of Deerstones in the parish of Addingham and the county of York, with thhe consent of friends and relations concerned did take each other in marriage according to the good order of truth in a publick meeting of Friends and others met together in the publick meetinghouse at Farfield in the parish of Addingham aforesaid, on the 14th of the 3rd month in the year 1724.
|
|
Children of that couple (possibly):
John Aldam
in the England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837
Name: John Aldam
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 28 Jan 1725
Birth Place: Balby , Yorkshire , England
Gender: Male
Father: Willm Aldam
Meeting: Monthly Meeting of Balby
Piece Description: Piece 1376: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster) (1646-1729, 1646-1729)
Eliz Aldam
in the England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837
Name: Eliz Aldam
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 12 Dec 1735
Birth Place: Yorkshire , England
Gender: Female
Father: Wm Aldam
Mother: Mary Aldam
Meeting: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster)
Piece Description: Piece 1114: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster) (1646-1807, 1646-1776)
Mary Aldam
in the England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837
Name: Mary Aldam
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 5 Aug 1738
Birth Place: Upper Thorp, Yorkshire , England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Female
Father: Wm Aldam
Mother: Mary Aldam
Meeting: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster)
Piece Description: Piece 1114: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster) (1646-1807, 1646-1776)
Tabitha Aldam
in the England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837
Name: Tabitha Aldam
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 2 Jun 1730
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire , England
Gender: Female
Father: Wm Aldam
Mother: Mary Aldam
Meeting: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster)
Piece Description: Piece 1114: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster) (1646-1807, 1646-1776)
John Aldam
in the England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837
Name: John Aldam
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 25 Mar 1744
Birth Place: Yorkshire , England
Gender: Male
Father: Wm Aldam
Mother: Mary
Meeting: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster)
Piece Description: Piece 1114: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster) (1646-1807, 1646-1776)
??? a little early ?? [EDIT: but I think the image says "11th month" ]
John Aldam
in the England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837
Name: John Aldam
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 23 Jan 1724
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire , England
Gender: Male
Father: Wm Aldam
Meeting: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster)
Piece Description: Piece 1114: Monthly Meeting of Balby (Sheffield, Doncaster) (1646-1807, 1646-1776)
|
|
Hi
Well I suppose it could be possible that she was having children over a long space of time. Sounds more realistic than William (1739 ) having children at 13 in 1752 and getting married 2 years later.
|
|
posssibles
William
Last name Aldam
Birth year 1708
Birth date 06 Feb 1708
Birth place as transcibed Balby
Birth county as transcribed York
Father's first name(s) Thos
Mother's first name(s) Isabel
Meeting place Balby
Thomas
Last name Aldam
Marriage year 1705
Marriage date 12 Apr 1705
Marriage place as transcibed Balby
Marriage parish as transcibed Balby
Marriage county as transcribed York
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Aldam
Spouse's first name(s) Isabel
Spouse's last name Midford
Meeting place Balby
Monthly meeting Balby
Quarterly meeting Yorkshire
County Yorkshire
Country England
Archive reference RG6/1115
Monthly meeting Balby
Quarterly meeting Yorkshire
County
William
Last name Aldam
Birth year -
Death year 1770
Death date 12 Sep 1770
Burial year 1770
Burial date 16 Sep 1770
Burial place as transcibed Balby
Burial county as transcribed Yorkshire
Meeting place Balby
Monthly meeting Balby
Quarterly meeting Yorkshire
County Yorkshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Isabell
Archive reference RG6/1114
Description YORKSHIRE: Monthly Meeting of Balby (comprising Sheffield, Doncaster, etc)
|
|
mary smith
William
Last name Aldam
Birth year -
Death year 1770
Death date 12 Sep 1770
Burial year 1770
Burial date 16 Sep 1770
Burial place as transcibed Balby
Burial county as transcribed Yorkshire
Meeting place Balby
Monthly meeting Balby
Quarterly meeting Yorkshire
County Yorkshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Isabell
Archive reference RG6/1114
Description YORKSHIRE: Monthly Meeting of Balby (comprising Sheffield, Doncaster, etc)
mary potter
Mary
Last name Potter
Birth year 1713
Birth date 29 Dec 1713
Birth county as transcribed York
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Meeting place Balby
Monthly meeting Balby
Quarterly meeting Yorkshire
County Yorkshire
Country England
|
|
Hi
Thanks very much for all this. Let me work on the above and get back to you.
Margaret
|
|
RE May being the 3rd month -
Since medieval times, 25 March has been known as Lady Day, and for centuries it has been seen as very special indeed.
The name comes from the medieval Church’s celebration of the Annunciation, which Christians believe was the moment the archangel Gabriel announced to Mary that she would bear a son. Once the Church had fixed the liturgical date of Christmas at 25 December, the Annunciation logically fell around 40 weeks earlier. Since the seventh century, it has been celebrated on 25 March. In medieval England, the day grew to be known as Lady Day (a corruption of Our Lady’s Day). Even when Catholicism was outlawed in the Reformation, the name lived on. In Samuel Pepys’s diary entries – made between 1660 and 1669 – he regularly dated his 25 March entries simply as “Lady Day”....
Until 1752 it was the first day of the year.
Can be quite confusing when looking at OPR's !!
|
|
That's really interesting. Thanks.
|
