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Albert Leslie Griffiths' death

Albert Leslie Griffiths
Birth Date: 26 Dec 1915
Date of Registration: Dec 1978
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Maidstone
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 1285

Apart from Albert Leslie, Samuel Jnr seems to have had one other child with Ellen Roles

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Griffiths Ivy H Roles Pancras 1b 243

She died as an infant
Deaths Sep 1913 (>99%)
Griffiths Ivy H 0 Pancras 1b 114

Son Samuel's death?

Samuel G Griffiths
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of Registration: Jun 1959
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Chatham
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5b
Page: 272

Probate

Samuel George Griffiths
Probate Date: 12 Jun 1959
Registry: London, England
Death Date: 15 Apr 1959
Death Place: Kent, England

Of 94 Woodlands Road Gillingham Kent died 15 April at All Saints Hospital Chatham. Probate London 12 June to Ada Sarah Griffiths widow and Albert Leslie Griffiths monumental mason. £2305 3s 1d

There might be some with Maria, but as she doesn't appear on any census with him & them, you'll never know.

Thanks all, I was looking for all the children of Samuel George Griffiths 1843-1918, seems too be only 2.

Would seem so!...

Chris :)


Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Griffiths Samuel George Pancras 1b 136


1939 Register (Find My Past)

157 Deansbrook Road , Hendon M.B., Middlesex
Samuel G Griffiths 12 Sep 1885 Male Surgical Inst Maker Married
Ada S Griffiths 27 Jan 1888 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Albert L Griffiths 26 Dec 1915 Male Letter Cutter Single


Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%)
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Griffiths Samuel G Pancras 1b 121
ROLES Ellen C Pancras 1b 121


Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
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Griffiths Albert L Roles Pancras 1b 169


Deaths Jun 1934 (>99%)
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Griffiths Ellen C 48 Hendon 3a 493


Marriages Dec 1936 (>99%)
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Griffiths Samuel G Hardy Paddington 1a 36
Hardy Ada S Griffiths Paddington 1a 36


Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
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Griffiths John Thomas W. Ham 4a 203

(do you have above Cert.?, what is his date of Birth on it?, or, are you looking for these, not sure!)

So basically, with only a few new additions, we've covered old ground??

ArgyllGran Report 16 Feb 2015 17:03

Samuel's death:

Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%)
Griffiths Samuel G 74 Pancras 1b 154

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1349585

(is above not him?)

Chris :)


Burial Register summary

Griffiths Samuel G
Burial date February 1918
Authority Kensal Green
Location Kensal Green Cemetery (Kensington and Chelsea)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

Not to worry - got it

Samuel George Griffiths
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Age: 34
(Commercial Traveller)
Spouse: Ann Frestone Taylor
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Dec 1883
Parish: Holy Trinity, Haverstock Hill
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Samuel Griffiths - Licensed Victualler
Spouse Father: Charles Taylor - Gentleman
Register Type: Parish Register

Both living at 65 Harmond St
........

I reckon it was a bigamous marriage. After all, he was able to move around the country with his job. Only family would know any different!
......
Ian - depending on which line you are interested in, we could send you images of both marriages.

Mary - who was Samuel's father and the father's occupation?

It says Samuel George Griffiths 34 a bachelor on the marriage record to Ann Freestone Taylor in 1883.Her dad Charles Taylor a gentleman

Maryb

thank you all, lots too look into

If Marie was born 1847-1850 (25 in 1872, 21 in 1871), For consideration...
Deaths

Deaths Dec 1881 (>99%)
Griffiths Maria 34 Pembroke 11a 537
(b c 1847)

Deaths Dec 1883 (>99%)
Griffiths Maria 33 Builth 11b 55
(b c 1850)

Found the marriage

Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
GRIFFITHS Samuel George Pancras 1b 87
TAYLOR Ann Frestone Pancras 1b 87

It might be worth buying it to see if he was a bachelor or widower, and if he names his father as Samuel Griffiths as per the 1872 marriage.

As divorce was so expensive, quite a few bigamous marriages took place.

SamuelGeorge Griffiths
in the 1911 England Census

Name: Samuel George Griffiths
Age in 1911: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Pancras
Civil Parish: St Pancras
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County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 28 College Place, Camden Town N W
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: PRIVATE MEANS
Registration district: St Pancras
Registration District Number: 9
Sub-registration district: East St Pancras
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 731
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel George Griffiths 67
Annie Preston Griffiths 48

She looks like Annie Freestone Griffiths which ties with the 1891 census
Married 28 years. 2 children born 1 still living


Not seeing a marriage for them though

Might they have seperated??

1891
Samuel Griffiths
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie F Griffiths
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, London, England
Civil Parish: Leyton
Ecclesiastical parish: Leyton All Saints
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: - Commercial Travellor

Registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1345
Folio: 92
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Griffiths 46
Annie F Griffiths 34 - Manchester
Samuel G Griffiths 5 - Hampstead, London
John Thos Griffiths 4 - Leyton Essex

?????
1901 census
Engalnd Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
60, Clarence Gardens, St Pancras, London, England
Samuel G Griffiths Head Married Male 56 1845 Traveller Stationer St Pancras, Middlesex, England Transcription
Annie T Griffiths Wife Married Female 49 1852 Dressmaker England Transcription
Samuel G Griffiths Son Single Male 15 1886 Shop Lad Surgical Inst Maker St Pancras, Middlesex, England Transcription


1891 census

Engalnd Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Daisy Villas, Manor Road, Leyton, West Ham, Essex, England
Samuel G Griffiths Head Married Male 46 1845 Commercial Traveller St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Annie F Griffiths Wife Married Female 34 1857 - -
Saml G Griffiths Son - Male 5 1886 - Hampstead, Middlesex, England
John Thos Griffiths Son - Male 4 1887 - Leyton, Essex, England

His baptism

Samuel George
Last name Griffiths
Gender Male
Birth year 1843
Birth place -
Baptism year 1844
Baptism date 25 Jan 1844
Place St Pancras
County London
Country England
Father's first name(s) Samuel
Father's last name Griffiths
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Is this him?

Samuel George Griffiths

in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
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Name: Samuel George Griffiths
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Jan 1844
Father's name: Samuel Griffiths
Mother's name: Elizabeth Griffiths
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 5 Sep. 1843. Father was a licensed victualler, Leigh St.