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Unmarried kitchen maid in household of Lord Frederick Fitz Clarence.


Maria Allen
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Maria Allen
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Midlothian (Edinburgh), Scotland
Civil Parish: Portsmouth
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Town: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Portsea Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 1658
Folio: 587
Page Number: 16

Possible birth for the young Susan:-

First name(s) SUSAN
Last name JAMES
Birth year 1877
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District ST. GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 458

In 1855 it was not compulsory to register a birth so there may not be a birth for Susan James/Allen. If you think the birth I posted above may be her daughter then the birth certificate should give Sarah's maiden name (if she was married).

Kath. x

Here's that marriage:

London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: James Richard Crocker - horsekeeper
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Age: 24
Spouse: Rose James
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Mar 1907
Parish: St Clement, Notting Hill
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: James Fossell Crocker - carpenter
Spouse Father: James James - Deceased <<<<
Register Type: Parish Register

Neither previously married. Address for both looks like 6 Blechynden Street. Witnesses James F Crocker and Henry? Gowing?

On the 1911 census Susan is with daughter Rose and Rose's husband Richard Crocker & family.

Rose's marriage certificate may give details of her father (if she knew who he was).

In both 1891 & 1901 Susan is recorded as Daughter.

In 1901 Susan is also shown as a Widow.

Hello Marcus, how do you know Maria Allen is a relative? The 1881 census says Susan James is the servant ...

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
24, Montpelier Street, St Margaret and St John the Evangelist Westminster, St George Hanover Square, London, England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Maria Allen Landlady Married Female 55 1826 Lodging House Keeper Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Susan James Servant Head Married Female 25 1856 Domestic Serv Middlesex, England
Susan James Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Middlesex, England

EDIT: Ignore question! I see she is described as daughter on the later census.

Hi, I am having trouble locating birth along with everything else regarding Susan James born c 1855. Surname yet unknown! (Is it James or Allen or something else??)

In 1881 Census (RG11, piece120) she is living at 24, Montpelier Street, St. George, Hanover Square.
She states she is born in Battersea, London in 1856.
With her is mother/mother in law is Maria Allen (Married?), (B. Edinburgh, 1826), a Lodging House Landlady, and daughter Susan James aged 4 yrs (1877 b Brompton, London).

1891 Census (RG12, piece1037) now at Cunningham Street, Acton, Brentford, Middlesex.
Now saying born in Chelsea, Middlesex!
Maria Allen (Widow) born Scotland 1822, dau Susan b1877, Brompton, Middlesex and another daughter Rose b1881, also Brompton.

1901 Census (RG13, Piece1204) 34, Cunningham Street, Acton, Brentford, Middlesex.
Maria Allen b1820, Scotland,
Susan James, b 1857, Chelmsford, Essex !!!!
Rose James, b1883, Brompton, Beatrice, b 1891 Battersea
Plus a few others..

Sorry to be long winded, but can any one help me with this one?

Birth for Susan James (Allen ?) 1877
Birth for Susan James (Allen ?) 1855
Husband of Susah James/Allen
Husband for Maria Allen b Scotland

And anyone else if possible!

Thanks in advance.......