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http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1283046

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/tips_board/thread/1165373

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/tips_board/thread/1161721?d=asc

(was wondering if Karen has Birth or Death Certs.)

Chris :)

edits (seems to be shared in other Members Trees, all as 1891)

Hi all,

Am going to lay all certificates out and check through them.
Chris thanks for the explanation, it all seems very complicated to a dip in dip out eye.
My mum left London at age 17 and never went back or contacted her family again so I have no information or guidance to back up what I find ,

You are all so helpful
THANKYOU

Karen

First Name(s):F
Last Name:Baldock
Number:11119
Unit:East Kent Regiment (3rd Batn)
Series:Derby Scheme men, 13th April 1916 - 15th July 1916
Regiment:East Kent Regiment (3rd Batn)
Reference:2496 / 8
Page number:9
Age:25 Years 7 Months
Height:5ft 0.25in.
Weight (pounds):112
Chest size (inches):34
Chest Expansion (inches):3
Eye colour:
Hair colour:
Distinctive marks:
Occupation:Newsagent
Birthplace:Balham
County:
Attestation date:08 December 1915
Attestation place:Wandsworth
Remarks:57 Fernlea Rd
Notes:Derby Scheme men. Dates and recruitment centres covered are

The address is the same as the 1911 posted which was where he lived with his parents.

Hi Astra
That is brilliant thankyou so much , Did you find this on ancestry.com ? I have just joined for a free 2 week trial and will see if I cab get to grips with it

Thanks again
Karrie
:-)

Hi Astra and all
Something is not adding up here
marraige certiificate has frederick as 23 and Elizabeth h j as 24 marraige 11/12/1913

Elizabeths death cert says she was 72 in 1953
All of Fredericks dates add up and Elizabeth is informant of death and address tallies
which should have made her 62? is this a mistake do you think or my maths worse than I thought
Cheers Karrie

Hi Karen
That is why i queried her age when she married. Her death certificate has the wrong age. It could be a mis-transcription I suppose from the written page to the typed list but as you say it just doesn't add up..

The military details were on Find my Past.

Knight
Elizabeth Hannah Jane
Burial date
26 November 1953
Authority
Manor Park
Location
Manor Park Cemetery (Newham)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch


(another below? age out again)

Deaths Dec 1952 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------
KNIGHT Elizabeth H 69 Wandsworth 5d 874

Chris :)

Baptism
Surname:French
Forenames:Elizabeth H.jessie
Baptism Year:1889
Baptism Month:NOV
Baptism Day:28
Mother:Mary Anne
Father:William
Birth Year:
Birth Month:
Birth Day:
Place:Greenwich
County:Kent
Source:St.Peters Greenwich 1866-1936 baptisms


Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
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French Elizabeth Harriet J Greenwich 1d 1081

Hi, yes I added and subtracted and whichever way it doesnt add up so I suppose will have to just assume its a mistake x I am now piecing together a picture of fredericks life and am so grateful to all for the help, had no idea what the Derby mens scheme was so looked it up x learning as well .Astra how do you do an address search?

Regards Karen

Thankyou Chris x

If you mean on the census it's difficult with Ancestry but can be done with every census record on FMP.
If you mean later than 1911 you would need the electoral rolls I think.

A ha

MarriageFinder: Elizabeth H J Knight married Frank Murrell
Name: KNIGHT, Elizabeth H J
Registration district: Surrey Mid Eastern
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1952
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Murrell
Volume no: 5G
Page no: 507

Name: MURRELL, Frank
Registration district: Surrey Mid Eastern
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1952
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Knight
Volume no: 5G
Page no: 507

This is more like it

Civil Registration event: Death


Name: MURRELL, Elizabeth Harriett J
Registration district: Sutton
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1969
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of birth: 6 November 1889
Volume no: 5E
Page no: 733

And the possible death of Edward Knight

Civil Registration event: Death


Name: KNIGHT, Edward B
Registration district: Surrey North Eastern
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1949
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 64
Volume no: 5G
Page no: 454

and husband number 3.

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: MURRELL, Frank
Registration district: Surrey Mid Eastern
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1964
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 74
Volume no: 5G
Page no: 216

Well Done there Astra, surely another Marriage Cert. worth getting!.

Chris :)

Thanks Chris :-)

At least everything now matches up.

She was certainly a game girl!

oh my goodness !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so she was married three times what a goer and back then too

she had five children with frederick and i think a son with mr knight
hopefully no little murrells

WELL DONE ASTRA YOU ARE A STAR
need time to digest all this x

Am so thrilled you have solved it for me xx thankyou for all the hard work astra x

chris x

You're welcome.
Enjoy a good rummage around amongst other people's ancestors.
Hope you don't get indigestion!
Astra
x

Hope I gave you a good puzzle x this is so addictive . started out as curiosity now cant leave it alone !!!!! this site is amazing and very friendly thanks again astra