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WILSON, George Inmate M 3 1908 London Bermondsey

(can see above, also in school with others)

Chris :)

Wow! I didn't expect to get so many answers so quickly. On other genealogical websites I haven't had a single reply in many years, so I'm grateful for all your efforts. The 1911 census with the Medhurst family is definitely my Great Grandfather. His parents were indeed John and Charlotte Wilson of Deptford. I'm staggered that people have made the connection with Stanley and Florence Wilson at the Shirley Schools as this is my Great Uncle Stanley Arthur Wilson 1904-1985 and Grandmother Annie Florence Wlson 1903-1994. My Great Grandmother Henrietta Rose Wilson nee Cornwell was indeed at 12 Lockwood Road in 1911 and died in January 1913. Her other remaining children were Henry Wilson 1909-1910 at 26 Slippers Place Rotherhithe and George Thomas Wilson 1907-1991. However I'm afraid that Sue hit the main problem in that I've been unable to find a death, marriage or travel passage register for either a James Thomas, or Thomas James Wilson in the period after 1911. Part of the problem is the name change but also the popularity of the surname of Wilson. Unless I can find evidence to the contrary I will have to conclude that he enlisted in The Great War of 1914-18 and that he died and his records were lost in the fire that engulfed the War dept in 1940. There are any number of records in the medal index and the various rolls of honour that could relate to him. However I won't know this with any certainty til the 1921 census is published. In the meantime I am grateful for all your efforts and if you find anything please let me know. Thank You.

Henrietta's death:

Deaths Mar 1913 (>99%)
Wilson Henrietta R 34 St Olave 1d 232

Thomas's birth:

Births Mar 1879 (>99%)
Wilson James Thomas Greenwich 1d 997

http://genforum.genealogy.com/wilson/messages/25473.html

(an old query above)

Wondering who was born 1909?...

Chris :)

edits (checking 'Search All Trees', looks to be Henry Wilson 1909, 26, Slippers Place, Rotherhithe)

Totally agree :-) there are a few could be's.

I can't find a possible Death Reg for him or Travel Passage .

Sue :-)

Jonathan -
Before we search further, I think we need you to tell us which, if any, of the above records relate to your James/Thomas Wilson and family, please.

No point in haring off in the wrong direction!

1911
WILSON, Stanley Inmate M 6 1905 London Bermondsey
RG number: RG14
Piece: 3322
Reference: RG14PN3322 RD39 SD2 ED41 SN9999
Registration District: Croydon
Sub District: South Croydon
Enumeration District: 41
Parish: Croydon
Address: Wickham Road Shirley Croydon
County: Surrey
Institution: Bermondsey Workhouse Schools.

(also Florence age 7)

Chris :)

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Minnie Alice Wilson Name: Minnie Alice Wilson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 31 May 1905
Father's Name: Thomas Wilson
Mother's Name: Henrietta Wilson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Worlds End St John
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Violet Henrietta Wilson Name: Violet Henrietta Wilson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Jul 1903
Father's Name: Thomas Wilson
Mother's Name: Henrietta Wilson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Worlds End St John
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers



Is this the family in 1911.

1911 England Census
about Henrietta Wilson Name: Henrietta Wilson
Age in 1911: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Chelsea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 38 Lamont Road, Chelsea
Occupation: SCHOOL
Registration District: Chelsea
Registration District Number: 4
Sub-registration District: Chelsea North
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 374
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Wilson 31 >>bn London
Henrietta Wilson 31>>Bn london
Henrietta Wilson 7 >>BN Kensinton London
Minnie Wilson 5 >>Bn Kensington London
Thomas Wilson 3 >>Chelses London

Edit
4 children Bn ...1 died Married 10 years Thomas is a Labourer

Name: Annie Florence Wilson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Feb 1903 (Born 16th Jan)
Father's Name: Thomas James Wilson (Warehouse Man)
Mother's Name: Henrietta Rose Wilson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Rotherhithe Christ Church
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers
(address, 403, Southwark Park Road)

Name: Stanley Arthur Wilson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Feb 1904 (Born 1st Feb)
Father's Name: Thomas James Wilson (Warehouse Man)
Mother's Name: Henrietta Rose Wilson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Crispin
Borough: Southwark
(address, 403, Southwark Park Road)

Chris :)

Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Cornwell Henrietta Rose St. Olave 1d 399
Wilson Thomas James St. Olave 1d 399

Could this be him in Hospitol 1911

1911 England Census
about James Wilson Name: James Wilson
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Patient
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: St Botolph without Aldgate, Mile End New Town and Whitechapel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: Whitechapel Infirmary, Vallance Road E
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: GENERAL LABOURER
Registration District: Whitechapel
Registration District Number: 18
Sub-registration District: Whitechapel
ED, institution, or vessel: 21-30
Piece: 1497
Household Members: Name Age
James wilson 32

For Ref is this him.

1891 England Census
about James T Wilson Name: James T Wilson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Wilson
Mother's Name: Charlotte Wilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, London, England

Civil Parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Greenwich
Sub-registration District: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 498
Folio: 5
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
John Wilson 58
Charlotte Wilson 54
Elizabeth Wilson 16
Edith M Wilson 14
James T Wilson 12


Edit
What was the names of James and Henriettas children please.
Do you have datesand places for there births :-)

there is also this one

Violet Wilson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 2 Jan 1902
Father's Name: James Wilson
Mother's Name: Henrietta Wilson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Philip
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

one of the children I think

Name: Violet Wilson
Record Type: Birth
Estimated Birth Date: 24 Dec 1902
Father's Name: James Wilson
Mother's Name: Henrietta Wilson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

If Thomas is in Deptford in 1911, and Henrietta Rose is with her parents & siblings in Bermondsey, where are the 3 surviving children? What are their names?
Both parents are listed as married.


1911 England Census about Henrietta Rose Wilson
Name: Henrietta Rose Wilson
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 12 Lockwood Rd, Bermondsey S E
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 8
Estimated Marriage Year: 1903
Registration District: St Olave (Bermondsey)
Registration District Number: 24
Sub-registration District: Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Piece: 1901
Household Members:
Name Age
Esther Ann Cornwell 58
Esther Annie Cornwell 34
Henrietta Rose Wilson 32 >>>> 4 children, 3 still living
Alice Mary Cornwell 24
Walter Sidney Cornwell 22
William Henry Cornwell 20
Emma Edith Cornwell 18
Arthur Samuel James Cornwell 16

I'm not sure from your post if you have this?


1911 England Census about Thomas Wilson
Name: Thomas Wilson
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: DEPTFORD, England
Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Brookmill Road, Deptford S E
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: PRINTERS CUTTER
Registration District: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration District: Deptford South
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Piece: 2667
Household Members:
Name Age
Ernest Medhurst 36
Ada Medhurst 37
Arthur Medhurst 31
Elizabeth Medhurst 36
Sidney Medhurst 13
Gordan Medhurst 5
Ernest Medhurst 4
William Medhurst 1
Thomas Wilson 32

I am interested in tracing the history of my Great Grandfather,who was born James Thomas Wilson on the 26th December 1878 in Deptford, London.Sometime in the 1890's he switched his name to Thomas James Wilson.He worked in various jobs including being a general laborer and factory hand,but more specifically as a Printers Cutter.
When his father died in 1901,he moved to Bermondsey where he married my Great Grandmother,Henrietta Rose Cornwell.They had four children which included my Grandmother.After the birth of the last child in 1909,Thomas appears to have abandoned his family and was never seen again.
Any information on him would be gratefully received. Thank you.
Jonathan Clements.