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It seems Florence was the wife of son William..........


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: LLEWELLYN, Florence Helena
Address: Croes Wen Penhow Newport

LLEWELLYN, William Head Married M 25 1886 Licensed Victualler Newport Mon VIEW
LLEWELLYN, Florence Helena Wife Married2 years F 31 1880 Pontypool Mon VIEW
LLEWELLYN, William Thomas Robert Son M 1 1910 Christchurch Mon VIEW
SAWTELL, Lilian Kathleen Servant Single F 16 1895 Barmaid Usk Mon VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 31955
Reference: RG14PN31955 RG78PN1839 RD587 SD1 ED10 SN46
Registration District: Newport
Sub District: Caerleon
Enumeration District: 10
Parish: Penhow
Address: Croes Wen Penhow Newport
County: Monmouthshire

Lewis/Louis's occupation on the 1911 census is a Plumber..........

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: LLEWELLYN, Lewis
Address: Royal Oak Hotel Christchurch Mon

LLEWELLYN, William Head Married M 44 1867 Licensed Victualler Glamorgan Cardiff VIEW
LLEWELLYN, Rosina Wife Married F 43 1868 Newport Mon VIEW
LLEWELLYN, Lewis Son Single M 21 1890 Plumber Newport Mon VIEW
PEARCE, Polly Servant Single F 20 1891 Domestic Servant Newport Mon VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 31957
Reference: RG14PN31957 RG78PN1839 RD587 SD1 ED12 SN256
Registration District: Newport
Sub District: Caerleon
Enumeration District: 12
Parish: Christchurch
Address: Royal Oak Hotel Christchurch Mon
County: Monmouthshire



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Louis Llewellyn
Name: Louis Llewellyn
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1889
Registration district: Newport
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 195



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Louis Llewellyn
Name: Louis Llewellyn
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1889
Date of Registration: Jan 1987
Age at Death: 97
Registration district: Pontypool
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 28
Page: 1293

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Rosina Llewellyn
Name: Rosina Llewellyn
Birth Date: abt 1868
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1959
Age at Death: 91
Registration district: Pontypool
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 8c
Page: 216






England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Rosina Llewellyn
Name: Rosina Llewellyn
Probate Date: 12 Oct 1959
Death Date: 12 Sep 1959
Death Place: Monmouthshire, Wales
Registry: Oxfordshire, England

Of 52 Brywern Pontypool........to Louis Lllewellyn (Lewis on the 1911 census?) retired plumber and Florence Helena Eliza Llewellyn widow.

Effects: £2704 10s 6d

Much as I hate to post this, and you may already have it:

William Llewellyn
Probate Date: 31 May 1919
Death Date: 18 Mar 1919
Death Place: Monmouthshire, Wales
Registry: London, England

Of the Royal Oak - probate to widow Rosina £1801 9s 4d

There is a possible Collins/Hale birth for this couple in 1913.........

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: COLLINS, Rosina
Address: 17 Ebenezer Terrace Newport

COLLINS, Albert Head Married M 45 1866 Dock Labourer Newport Mon VIEW
COLLINS, Rosina Wife Married24 years F 42 1869 Newport Mon VIEW
COLLINS, Albert Charles Son Single M 22 1889 Wagon Repairer Newport Mon VIEW
COLLINS, Arthur Son Single M 11 1900 School Newport Mon VIEW
COLLINS, James Edwin Son Single M 7 1904 Newport Mon VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 31979
Reference: RG14PN31979 RG78PN1840 RD587 SD2 ED20 SN105
Registration District: Newport
Sub District: Newport
Enumeration District: 20
Parish: Newport
Address: 17 Ebenezer Terrace Newport
County: Monmouthshire


??

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Collins Elsie M Hale Newport M 11a 554

Yeah Andy/Flip....tried the in-law angle to no avail.

And of course the censuses don't throw any light on anything!

I sent for two more will last week Flip :-)

Jude

Hi Jude,

Only hope is one of the "in-laws" turns up on a census with them - and lets hope you don't need the will :-D

What are the chances of having two Rosinas on the same record? Normally you could look on the following census, but in this case you probably need the cert, especially as the brides were born so close together.

Andy