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1881

Name: John W. Neal
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Grandchild
Mother's Name: Nancy Neal
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Redbourn
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address: High Street
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: Harpenden
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1430
Folio: 66
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
John Neal 88 Carpenter
Susan Neal 52 Unmarried
Nancy Neal 50 Unmarried
Florence E. Neal 10 Grandchild
John W. Neal 8 Grandchild



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Deaths Mar 1875 NEAL Joseph 35 St Geo Han Sq 1a 364


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Births Sep 1872 NEAL John William London City 1c 53

Good to find you are sorted Anne. :-)

Very happy with the response i got. Thank you all once again Anne

Name: Elizabeth Ann Crabb
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Joseph Neal, Messenger
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 May 1867
Parish: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Father Name: James Crabb , Cabriolet Proprietor
Spouse Father Name: John Neal, Carpenter
Register Type: Parish Register


Address for both Jockey's Fields

Witnesses James Crabb and Emma Neal

The 1881 census address you kindly sent matches the address I have on the 1891.
I did believe Nancy Neal was the mother of John
Brilliant. Gratefully Anne

I would venture to suggest that this is the clincher

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Albert Joseph Neal
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 23
Spouse Name: Leah Hart
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Nov 1891
Parish: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Father Name: Joseph Neal
Spouse Father Name: Ralph Hart
Register Type: Parish Register

1871 England Census about Joseph Neal
Name: Joseph Neal
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: East Neal
Gender: Male
Where born: Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Household schedule number: 90
Piece: 46
Folio: 12
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Neal 30
East Neal 35****************image is E A
Joseph Neal 2
Florence Neal 10 Months

A tree on Ancestry has a John W Neal born 1872 London with parents Joseph Neal (b. 1841) and Elizabeth Ann Crabbe (b. 1835)

No sources though.

Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
Botham Ann W.London 1c 89
CRABB Elizabeth Ann W. London 1c 89
GATES Job W. London 1c 89
NEAL Joseph W. London 1c 89

BUT............you MUST verify, by getting AT LEAST one of the sons' marriage certs

This is a suggestion ONLY, based on age and birthplace.................as she's a widow, one would have to question John's birth

1881 England Census about Elizabeth Ann Neel
Name: Elizabeth Ann Neel
[Elizabeth Ann Neal]
[Elizabeth Ann Crabb]
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann Crabb
Gender: Female
Where born: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St George Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 16 Jockeys Fields
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)

Occupation: No Occupation
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St George the Martyr
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 339
Folio: 54
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Crabb 70 born Kingsthorpe Northants
Elizabeth Ann Neel 46

Thank you for all who took the trouble to try and help me find out Elizabeth maiden name Anne

Proving elusive in 1871................

name: Albert Neal
age: 12
gender: Male
birth year: 1869
birthplace: London, Middlesex, England
relationship to head of household: Nephew
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Scholar
address: Albert Road
census place: St Albans, Hertfordshire, England

head John Newell M 33 St Albans, Hertfordshire, England
wife Emma Newell F 38 Redbourn, Hertfordshire, England
daughter Edith E Newell F 4 St Albans, Hertfordshire, England
nephew Albert Neal M 12 London, Middlesex, England

I have to pop out Anne but i will check back on here later.

Prickles.

Albert in 1881

Name: Albert Neal
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Albans
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Albert Road
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: St Albans
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1432
Folio: 58
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
John Newell 33
Emma Newell 38
Edith E. Newell 4
Albert Neal 12

Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%)
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Barber John St Alban's 3a 345
Goodgame Selina St Alban's 3a 345
Neal Emma St. Alban's 3a 345
Newell John St Alban's 3a 345

Thank you .

Now look for a possible marriage......................

................or buy the son's birth cert (if it was registered)

Failing that.........if the sons married, they should name their father on the marriage certs

1841 England Census
Name: John Neal
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Redbourn
Hundred: Cashio
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: Harpenden
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 438
Book: 18
Folio: 6
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
John Neal 45
Ann Neal 40
Susan Neal 14
Ann Neal 12
Henry Neal 10
Amiel Neal 8
John Neal 3
Emma Neal 1

1851 England Census
Name: John Neal
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Head
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Wheathamstead, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Redbourn
Town: Redbourn
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: Harpenden
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 1713
Folio: 136
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
John Neal 56
Susannah Neal 26
Emma Neal 11
Joseph Neal 9
Charles Neal 7
Caroline Neal 5

1861 England Census
Name: Nancy Neal
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Neal
Gender: Female
Where born: Redbourn, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Redbourn
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: Harpenden
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 18
Piece: 828
Folio: 23
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
John Neal 64
Susan Neal 33
Nancy Neal 31
Emma Neal 20
Charles Neal 16
Charles Mitchell 30