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Cherilyn- you sure have given me a lot of information . Some I had but lots I didn't have. Thank you. :-)

There is a photo of Alexander & Wilhelmina here:
www.forres-gazette.co.uk/Features/Memory-Lane/Findhorn-Public-School-1913-5814.htm

Here's Alfred's WWII enlistment in the Naval Reserve, he was 10 yrs younger than stated (which makes more sense anyway, given the marriage date of his parents!. I suspect Shirley's birthdate is also out, since she did not marry til 1950.)

MIDDLETON ALFRED SAUNDERS : Service Number - PM6463 : Date of birth - 31 Dec 1918 : Place of birth - BROKEN HILL NSW : Place of enlistment - PORT MELBOURNE VIC : Next of Kin - MIDDLETON VERA


Marriage in Victoria of Alfred Saunders MIDDLETON to Vera Florence REID in 1940 (reg 15053). They lived in South Melbourne.

Can't find deaths in NSW or Victoria. Seems Alfred was named after his uncle (Chas' brother): Alfred Saunders Middleton Lt 56th Royal Air Force born Dounby, Orkney 20/02/1892 enlisted Vancouver, BC Age 26 Died of Wounds F & F 26-Oct-18 Son of Alexander Middleton, Headmaster and Williamina Bruce (nee Gordon) Middleton, of Findhorn, Forres. Husband of Margaret Roy Gillan Middleton, of Urquhart, Elgin. Morayshire Roll of Honour: Page 230: Occ Clerk. Husband of Margaret Roy Gillan. MI: NE(S)1061. Rocquigny-Equancourt Road British Cemetery Fr 0398 Plot XIV Row A Grave 40 FG 6-11-18 3/4


See also www.canadiangreatwarproject.com/searches/soldierDetail.asp?Id=11427

Death for Eileen in SA (visiting Heather perhaps?)

1955 (821/416)
MIDDLETON
Eileen Frances
Charles Gordon MIDDLETON [H]
Port Adelaide

Barrier Miner (Broken Hill), Tuesday 26 April 1949
In memory of F/O Charles Middleton, always remembered by Mum, Dad, Shirl, Heather, Dink and Alf.

Barrier Miner, Thursday 14 August 1952
The marriage of Heather Helen, younger daughter of Mr. and Mrs. C. G. Middleton, of Devon Park (formerly of North Mine Residence, Broken Hill), to Kevin Asa, younger son of Mr. and Mrs. R. W. Carter, 592 Wolfram Street, will be solemnised at Scots Church North Terrace, Adelaide, on Saturday, at 5 p.m. Attending the bride will be her sister (Mrs. David McDonald), as Matron of honor, and Miss Isabelle Tucker, of Adelaide (bridesmaid).

Death for Chas Gordon MIDDLETON in 1981 in NSW, shows as son of Alexander & Wilhelmina (reg 6025). He must have lived to a ripe old age! If you know for certain this is the right person, his death certificate would be well worth getting as it should list any and all marriages and children. I am not clear on which info you are using as a starting point (ie the parents of Chas or one of his children).

Marriage for Shirley:
27803/1950 MCDONALD DAVID JOHN / MIDDLETON SHIRLEY DAWN / BROKEN HILL

Ive sorted the c/p issue


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Charles G Middleton
Birth Date: 1886
Father's Name: Alexander Middleton
Mother's Name: Ann
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Place: Central Cumberland, New South Wales
Registration number: 18733


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Charles G Middleton
Spouse Name: Eileen F Hoare
Marriage Date: 1918
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Broken Hill, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1918
Registration number: 3117

Thanks to everyone who has tried to help me. I will now go and have alook at other trees via the link above.

Eileen Hoare is mentioned in this article:

Barrier Miner (Broken Hill) - Thursday 2 November 1911

PUBLIC SCHOOL CONCERT AT WHITE CLIFFS.

"The Miner's" correspondent at White Cliffs writes :

A very successful concert was given by the children attending the public school on Thursday evening, October 20, in the Centennial Hall when the operetta "Red Riding Hood's Rescue" was creditably performed by thr juveniles, many of whom were mere infants. This fact, however, did not seen to come in their way when going through the parts allotted them. Some sweet voices were heard during the progress of the play. Miss Nellie Barratt,- as "Red Riding Hood," and Miss Lily Lucas, as "Mother," both played and sang their parts well, as did also Miss Olive Bradbury, as "Rose," and Miss Nellie Barratt, as "Buttercup." Miss Eileen Hoare made a graceful and rather imposing "Queen of Fairies.", She had with her as fairy helps Misses Lizzie Brown, Mary Paul, Alice Bedell, Olive Mercer, May Heath, and Mavis Maiden. Master A. Lucas was "Robin," and Master A. Swift "Wolf." Both did well. During the intermission of the play some pleasing items were brought on. The floral march, by senior girls, was reproduced, and was much appreciated. Action songs were given by the infants, and a nigger sketch, "Seven Little Nigger Boys," by the boys. The entertainment was concluded with an amusing piece, "The Tin Can Band," in which Mr Hanly, the teacher, provided full measure of fun by his comicalities. The members of the band were:-Nellie Baratt, Lily Lucas, Norah Burke, Annie Hagcmann, Mavis Maiden, Alfred Lucís, Alfred Swift, Willie Molden, and Roy Lucas, all of whom contributed, singly, songs and local hits. The orchestra consisted of Mr. P. Fiebig (piano), Masters H. Townsend (first violin). L. Townsend (second violin). Miss Nellie Townsend (third violin). Mr. A, Griesson (flute). Before the fall of the curtain, Mr. IT tilly, the teacher, briefly thanked Miss' Meisiei-, Fiebig, and others who had assisted in making the concert the success it undoubtedly was. The proceeds, which reached close to £20, were in aid of the school fund.

A bazaar in aid of the church and convent fund, was opened on Saturday evening in the Centennial Hall, and did good business. The large hall was crowded all the evening.

(Have corrected as best I can the scanning errors)

Grannymac - you don't need to be a member of Ancestry to search and view trees, or contact the tree owners. They have a sister site, Mundia, where all public trees are available.

You have to register but it's free.
http://www.mundia.com/gb/

There is another Charles, born to Alexander and Ann, Central Cumberland, New South Wales - 1886

grannymac

If you like, i would be more than happy to contact the tree owner on Ancestry on your behalf to ask if he/she would be willing to share information with you.

If i receive a reply and they agree........you could then give me your email address (Privately by PM) and i could post it on.

Let me know if that is what you would like me to do.

Prickles.

Now confused as to if date is 14 mar 1917 or 1918 as I got 1917 posted earlier.

Can you tell me how to get access to Australian details for the births of Eileen Hoare, then her children Alfred and Shirley. Also marrige /or death records for any of them.

The death record for Charles Middleton in Camperdown Victoria seems a long way from where they were married in Brokenhill.

According to the tree on Ancestry.....Charles and Eileen Frances Hoare had 6 children.
Apart from the son Charles Gordon.........all the other childrens details are private.

Son Charles details are that he was born 20.July Broken Hill NSW Australia
Death 19th Oct 1944 Buried Struttgart Germany RAF 2nd WW.

No death details for the parents.

(Parents Eileen and Charles........Not Alexander)

I dont know why, at the moment that I cant paste onto here!

They married in:

Broken Hill 1918

Charles G Middleton & Eileen F Hoare

Reg: 3117

Now after that help is there any way I can find birth/death/marriages for the family mentioned above .

Alfred Middleton and Shirley Middleton and any birth or death record for Eileen Frances Hoare wife of Alexander Middleton.

The only public tree on Ancestry with Charles Gordon Middleton only names 1 child, the one who died in WW2.

PricklyHolly- thank you. I'm not on ancestry so probably won't find that tree.

Included is this census.........


1891 Scotland Census
about Alexander Middleton
Name: Alexander Middleton
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Williamina Bruce Middleton
Gender: Male
Where born: Chapel of Garioch, Aberdeenshire
Registration number: 27
Registration district: Sandwick
Civil parish: Sandwick
County: Orkney
Address: School House Dounbg (Under Birsay and Harray School Board)
Occupation: Certificated Thacher (Master) and Sacher Teachers Subjects
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 50
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_6
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Middleton 32
Williamina Bruce Middleton 27
Alexander Middleton 5
Ernest William Middleton 4
Charles Gordon Middleton 2

Funnily enough........after i posted that census, i realised the surname was Gordon and not Middleton.

I then noticed that there is a tree on Ancestry with Williamina Bruce Gordon and Alexander Middleton and that census is included on the tree.