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Marriage certificate ordered - thanks for all your responses and have a great festive season.

I'll mark this as answered.

So the marriage to which you referred was that of a child......not a sibling. That makes a difference........

You quoted approx birth years in your original post............hence my question about the source(s) of the info

Hi Reggie,

I believe the father's occupation is shown on the marriage certificate, which was how I dentified that Alfred senior was a painter.

I have not identified where and when Alfred and Florence were born. That's what I am trying to establish, without any luck so far. I could hazard a guess that it was East London, but I have no proof.

As you say, I will have data on which to base informed searches when I have their marriage certificate. I also do not know with any certainty what Florence's middle name was; only that it began with M.

The Death record you posted above looks like a distinct possibility - I know that she lived in Poplar until her death in the early 1960's. I will record those details, but it still does not reveal her middle name.

Thanks for your responses.

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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: Florence M Hadley
Birth Date: abt 1897
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1965
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Poplar
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 276

For accuracy................

Marriages Jun 1922 (>99%)
CHAPLIN Florence M Hadley W.Ham 4a 767
HADLEY Alfred Chaplin W.Ham 4a 767


What was Florence's second forename?

How could a man's occupation be entered on the marriage cert of a sibling?

He could only have been a witness, and their occupations are not recorded

Please can you say where/how you found out when Alfred and Florence were born........

The names on the marriage record should be their correct given names.

When you receive their marriage cert, you will have data on which to base informed searches

Hi Gins,

I have no evidence of any connection with Ipswich, unless I can identify the Ipswich family moving to London, or perhaps Florence working in London's East end.

Thanks for searching and posting though. It's a possibility that I will follow-up.

Beau.

1911 England Census

Name: Florance Chaplin
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ipswich
Civil parish: Ipswich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street Address: 79 Albion Street, Ipswich
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Factory Hand
Registration district: Ipswich
Registration District Number: 213
Sub-registration district: Ipswich Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 76
Piece: 10827
Household Members: Name Age
William Chaplin 54 <<Labourer
Ellen Chaplin 39
Ellen Chaplin 22
Florance Chaplin 14
Emily Chaplin 18
Violet Chaplin 3


You do need the marriage to make sure the Florence I have posted is the correct one

Thanks Shirley. That's useful.


Gins,
I don't have the marriage certificate with me, but I will be able to post the details at the weekend.

1901 England Census
about Florence M Chaplin
Name: Florence M Chaplin
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Chaplin
Mother's Name: Ellen Chaplin
Gender: Female
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: St Clement
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England


Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: Ipswich Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 1777
Folio: 82
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
William Chaplin 43
Ellen Chaplin 29
William C Chaplin 13
Ellen R Chaplin 11
Emily E Chaplin 8
Ethel M Chaplin 5
Florence M Chaplin 4
Gertrude E Chaplin 2
Elise V Chaplin 1

Births Jun 1897 (>99%)
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Chaplin Florence May Ipswich 4a 900


She has M as her middle initial on the marriage entry

Thanks for your quick responses - I will place an order for the marriage certificate, although I doubt it will reach me until January due to the Christmas post :-(, so I will continue to research them in the meantime.

Is there anywhere that one can access or purchase the information that is on the marriage certificate, but not have a copy of the certificate itlsef?

Beau

I know that Alfred was recorded as a Painter in one of his siblings marriage certificates

Is this Alfred the son? Can you post the marriage details from the certificate you have please

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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Florence Hadley
Name: Florence Hadley
Birth Date: 26 Jun 1897
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1981
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Newham
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 15
Page: 195

The marriage cert would give you the names and occupations of their fathers (if known) and the witnesses could well be family members so also useful.

I would stronly suggest that you but this - it will cost £9.25 from GRO

Dea x

Your best bet it to buy the marriage cert. it will give their ages at marriage and fathers names .if known

Hi, welcome to the community boards

The marriage certificate should give you the names and occupations of the fathers.