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lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 18 Nov 2012 22:32

the only Whittaker / Meadowcroft birth on lanc bmd

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1894
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WHITTAKER Nora Newchurch Preston MEADOWCROFT NEW/90/12

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 18 Nov 2012 21:51

child of this marriage?

Births Mar 1922
Horne Harry Whittaker Haslingden 8e 146


death looks to be a year out though....maybe an error on the part of the informant

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Harry Horne
Name: Harry Horne
Birth Date: 2 Dec 1922
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1981
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Volume: 38
Page: 0921

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 18 Nov 2012 21:48

Births Mar 1894
Whittaker Nora Haslingden 8e 97


possible marriage?

Marriages Dec 1920
Whittaker Nora Horne Haslingden 8e 351
Horne Walter Whittaker Haslingden 8e 351

Mark

Mark Report 18 Nov 2012 20:50

Thank you for the Levi Fielding marriage......

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 18 Nov 2012 19:27

Widowed Susannah and Nora in 1911, living with married Mary Jane Fielding nee Crossley and her husband. No younger Whittaker sibs living with them.

Address: 2 84 Tentre St or 11 Temple St Burnley County: Lancashire

FIELDING, Levi Head Married M 38 1873 Chip And Fish Frice Rossendale Lancs
FIELDING, Mary Jane Wife Married 7 years F 32 1879 Assistant In Business Rossendale Lancs
>>WHITTAKER, Susannah Boarder Widow F 56 1855 Servant Rossendale Lancs
>>WHITTAKER, Nora Boarder Single F 17 1894 Weaver Rossendale Lancs


Marriages Jun 1904

Baldwin William Edmund Haslingden 8e 259
>>>>>Crossley Mary Jane Haslingden 8e 259
>>>>>Fielding Levi Haslingden 8e 259
Whitehead Margaret Haslingden 8e 259


EDIT: SNAP, Stuart!

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2012 19:26

It would appear that Susannah is a widow by 1911 - there are deaths for a Richard in Haslingden RD 1906 (one T in Whittaker) and 1908. She and Nora are together
1911 census transcription details for: 2 84 Tentre St or 11 Temple St Burnley

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN24782 RG78PN1421 RD472 SD1 ED4 SN177
Reg. District: Burnley
Sub District: East Ward
Parish: Burnley
Enum. District: 4
Address: 2 84 Tentre St or 11 Temple St Burnley
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
FIELDING, Levi Head Married M 38 1873 Chip And Fish Frice Rossendale Lancs
FIELDING, Mary Jane Wife Married7 years F 32 1879 Assistant In Business Rossendale Lancs
WHITTAKER, Susannah Boarder Widow F 56 1855 Servant Rossendale Lancs
WHITTAKER, Nora Boarder Single F 17 1894 Weaver Rossendale Lancs

Susannah was aged 45 in 1901 so instinct says no other children than Nora unless born and died between census

Use this free site to check for sibling birth possibilities and also for possible marriage of Nora.
You can then input surname and mothers maiden name to check if there were births for the couple, but I think you will need certificates to make sure

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Mark

Mark Report 18 Nov 2012 18:44

Nora Whittaker daughter of Richard Whittaker and Susannah Meadowcroft b.1894 Lancashire, England - Seeking any other siblings or information on her ie, Marriage or children.. Thanks

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2012 15:56

Just trying to show who belongs to who, which is what you wanted to know.

If Mary Jane died in 1888, and Richard married Susannah in 1890, then any children with the Whittaker name on the 1891 census probably belong to Richard and Mary Jane. Likewise any with the Crossley name should belong to Susannah but only the birth certificate would confirm who are named as parents..........
Nora Whittaker would appear to be daughter of Richard and Susannah as she is aged 7 in 1901

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2012 15:46

1871 census transcription details for: Miller Barn, Newchurch

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 4135
Folio: 43
Page: 12
Reg. District: Haslingden
Sub District: Newchurch
Parish: Newchurch
Enum. District: 16
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Miller Barn, Newchurch
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WHITAKER, Betty Head F 43 1828 Lancashire
WHITAKER, Levi Son M 12 1859 Lancashire
WHITAKER, Richard Son M 20 1851 Lancashire <<<<<<<<<<<<Woollen Tenterer
WHITAKER, Mary J Wife F 24 1847 Lancashire

Mark

Mark Report 18 Nov 2012 15:45

Stuart

I am only related to Susannah Meadowcroft who married John Crossley - Thanks

if i have it right they had

Thomas 1877
Mary 1879
John 1881
Willie 1884
Sarah 1888

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2012 15:43

?? Civil Registration event: Marriage

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Name: WHITTAKER, Richard
Registration district: Haslingden
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1870
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 8E
Page no: 244
MarriageFinder: Richard Whittaker married one of the following people:

BARNES, Mary Jane
CHARNLEY, Mary
HOWORTH, John Fielding
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and possible death for Mary Jane

Civil Registration event: Death

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Name: WHITTAKER, Mary Jane
Registration district: Haslingden
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1888
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 41
Volume no: 8E
Page no: 76

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2012 15:37

1881 - Richard with previous wife and their children
1881 census transcription details for: Booth Fold, Newchurch With Bacup

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 4129
Folio: 72
Page: 9
Reg. District: Haslingden
Sub District: Newchurch
Parish: Newchurch with Bacup
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Booth Fold, Newchurch With Bacup
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WHITAKER, Richard Head Married M 30 1851 Woollen Tenter Rawtenstall, Lancashire
WHITAKER, Mary Jane Wife Married F 35 1846 House Keeper Hulme Hill, Lancashire
WHITAKER, Mary Daughter Single F 6 1875 School Girl Newchurch, Lancashire
WHITAKER, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 4 1877 Newchurch, Lancashire

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2012 15:36

1891, same family. The Crossley children shown as step children to Richard the head of the house, so the others will be his children. Expect by 1901 they all considered themselves one family
1891 census transcription details for: Hoyle Dean Farm, Hargreaves Fold, Newchurch, Lumb, Rawtenstall

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 3347
Folio: 50
Page: 9
Reg. District: Haslingden
Sub District: Newchurch
Parish: Newchurch
Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District: Lumb
City/Municipal Borough: Rawtenstall
Address: Hoyle Dean Farm, Hargreaves Fold, Newchurch, Lumb, Rawtenstall
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WHITTAKER, Richard Head Married M 40 1851 Woollen Tenterer And Farmer Leigh, Lancashire, Rawtenstall
WHITTAKER, Susannah Wife Married F 35 1856 Lumb, Lancashire
WHITTAKER, Mary Daughter Single F 16 1875 Weaver Cotton Boothfold, Lancashire, Waterproof
WHITTAKER, George Son M 9 1882 Scholar Boothfold, Lancashire, Waterproof
WHITTAKER, Margaret Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar Lumb, Lancashire
CROSSLEY, Thomas Stepson Single M 14 1877 Farm ServantLumb, Lancashire
CROSSLEY, Mary Jane Stepdaughter Single F 12 1879 Weaver CottonLumb, Lancashire
CROSSLEY, John Stepson M 10 1881 Scholar Lumb, Lancashire, Dean Height
CROSSLEY, Willie Stepson M 7 1884 Scholar Lumb, Lancashire, Dean Height
CROSSLEY, Sarah Granddaughter F 3 1888 Lumb, Lancashire, Dean Height

Mark

Mark Report 18 Nov 2012 15:35

Thank you k

So just to confirm.....


Mary, George, Margaret are they children of Richard and Susannah or his previous wife.....

K

K Report 18 Nov 2012 15:25

In 1891 the Crossley's are shown as step children of Richard rather than his children - children of Susannah's prior to her marriage

Name: Richard Whittaker
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susannah Whittaker
Gender: Male
Where born: Leigh Rewtenstall, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Newchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: Lumb
Town: Lumb
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Newchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3347
Folio: 50
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Whittaker 40
Susannah Whittaker 35
Mary Whittaker 16
George Whittaker 9
Margaret Whittaker 5
Thomas Crossley 14
Mary Jane Crossley 12
John Crossley 10
Willie Crossley 7
Sarah Crossley 3

Mark

Mark Report 18 Nov 2012 15:11

Susannah shown here as Whittaker on her second marriage - Her first marriage to John Crossley but her maiden name is Meadowcross.

The census below shows her as mother and Richard as father but he could not be as they only married in 1890.

1901
Richard Whittaker 50
Susannah Whittaker 45
George Whittaker 19
Margaret Whittaker 15
Nora Whittaker 7
Mary Jane Crossley 22
John Crossley 20
Waller Crossley 17
Sarah Crossley 13

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I have 2 further children Thomas Crossley 1877 and Mary 1879 who are not listed