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i have a martha gash born sheffield 1898,her parents were james gash and harriett chapman. i think martha gash went on to marry thomas morgan in sheffield 1917.im trying to find the parents of thomas i have looked on 1911 census and found a family george morgan widower born 1857 heweisfield gloucester living in sheffield he does have a son called thomas was wondering if this is his father.please help thanks
janette

just for ref:-

1911 England Census about Martha Gash
Name: Martha Gash
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Ecclesall
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 5c-4m Channing St Sheffield
Occupation: School
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Registration District Number: 509
Sub-registration district: Ecclesall North
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 27709
Household Members:
Name Age
James Gash 54
Harriett Gash 55
Frank Gash 30
David Gash 24
Martha Gash 12

Do you have martha's marriage certificate?

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Thomas M Morgan
Name: Thomas M Morgan
Spouse Surname: Gash
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1917
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 596
Find Spouse: Martha Gash


.....................this will give you her husbands age so you can work out his date of birth, also his address at the time of marriage and his father's name and occupation which may help find him in the census records.

Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)
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Cross Fred Hague Ecclesall B. 9c 596
Gash Martha Morgan Ecclesall B. 9c 596
Hague Dora Cross Ecclesall B. 9c 596
Morgan Thomas H Gash Ecclesall B. 9c 596

I think you would need to order the marriage certificate to be sure that it is her, and get his age and fathers details.

His age will be recorded and his father named on the marriage cert.

It will also confirm whether you have picked on the right Martha...........and avoid wild-goose chases

How did you work back to her?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Martha Gash
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1898
Registration district: Wortley
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 310

This one is a possibility, same area as marriage and marriage record shows he had middle name beginning with M:-

1891 England Census about Tom M Morgan
Name: Tom M Morgan
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Tom M Morgan
Mother's name: Selina Morgan
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Ecclesall Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3807
Folio: 109
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
Tom M Morgan 29
Selina Morgan 23
Tom M Morgan 1

There is doubt about his second initial..............as per the marriage records posted

Same family in 1911 (keep on file, just in case)

1911 England Census about Tom Marshall Morgan
Name: Tom Marshall Morgan
Age in 1911: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Ecclesall
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 180 Northfield Rd Crooker Sheffield Yorkshire
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Stone Waller
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Registration District Number: 509
Sub-registration district: Ecclesall West Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 27741
Household Members:
Name Age
Tom Marshall Morgan 48
Selina Morgan 44 - Birth Place: Sutton, Derbyshire
Flora Morgan 18
Lily Morgan 15
Josephine Rose Morgan 13
Selina Morgan 9
Anne Morgan 5
Ethel Morgan 2
Charles Edward Redman 49

Married 24yrs.
8 children - 6 living and 2 died

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1901 England Census about Tom M Norgan
Name: Tom M Norgan
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Salina Norgan
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Nether Hallam
Ecclesiastical parish: Crookes St Thomas
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Hallam
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 150
Piece: 4340
Folio: 37
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Tom M Norgan 38
Salina Norgan 33
Flora Norgan 8
Lily Norgan 5
Josephina R Norgan 3
Charles E Redman 38

They married in wartime..............he could have been anywhere in the country in 1911 and earlier

Do you have the exact birth date of Martha ?

no sorry i dont have any certificates for martha i do know her parents were james and harriett and that she did have brothers frank gash and david gash david married my granfathers sister emily clarkson

Janette,
You really should buy a copy of the marriage certificate if you want to find out any information on Thomas Morgan.
Once you have it, come back to this thread and post all the information you will find on it, onto the thread so that we can help you further.