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Hello - can anyone help me - I've hit a brick wall !
I have Rachel or Rachael Beckett's parents as William Beckett b. 1831 and Martha Halliwell b. 1832. Martha Halliwell's parents were John Halliwell b. 1802 & Betty Moor b. 1806
My problem started when I found 2 marriage entries in the Lancashire BMD for Rachel Beckett both in the year 1883 and both married at the Blackburn Register Office.
1. Rachel Beckett to Alfred Bury1883
2. Rachel Beckett to William Riley 1883
Apparently the Rachel Beckett who married Alfred Bury immigrated to the USA. The Rachel Beckett who married William Riley has census records through to 1911 in the UK - I had chosen to go with Rachel Beckett who married William Riley until I looked up the Mundia records and found a photo of the headstone & record of Rachel Halliwell Beckett who married Alfred Bury, in the USA Unfortunately the owner of the tree did not have any parents recorded for that Rachel Beckett hence the brick wall
Would very much appreciate help with this
Kind Regards
Margaret Halliwell Dwight

How are you connected to Racel and how have you got back to her?

Jude

Hello Margaret, where exactly was your Rachel born?

According to that Ancestry tree (which you came across via Mundia) they have Rachel as being 12 years old when she married Alfred Bury in 1871. I'd take their research and accuracy with a pinch of salt!

You could check out the birthdate on this against the birthdate of your Rachel:

Web: Florida, Find A Grave Index, 1819-2011
Name: Rachel Bury
Birth Date: 10 Dec 1859
Age at Death: 26
Death Date: 13 Oct 1886
Burial Place: Saint Augustine, St. Johns County, Florida, USA

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=54114132&PIpi=34214921

Is this your Rachel?

1861 England Census
about Rachael Beckett Name: Rachael Beckett
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Beckett
Mother's name: Martha Beckett
Gender: Female
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Blackburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 53
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Piece: 3104
Folio: 36
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
William Beckett 25
Martha Beckett 24
Rachael Beckett 1

Same address as Betty Halliwell, 61 and daughter Betty, 36.

I think the Rachel who married William Riley is this one as she has children called Leah and Annie

1871

FOWLER, Robert Head M 67 1804 Lancashire VIEW
FOWLER, Alice Daughter F 20 1851 Lancashire VIEW
BECKETT, Ann Boarder F 39 1832 Lancashire VIEW
BECKETT, Margaret A Boarder F 19 1852 Lancashire VIEW
BECKETT, Leah Boarder F 15 1856 Lancashire VIEW
BECKETT, Rachel Boarder F 10 1861 Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 4176 Folio: 102 Page: 6 Registration District: Blackburn Civil Parish: Blackburn Municipal Borough: Blackburn Address: Bottom Gate, Blackburn County: Lancashire

1901

RILEY, William Head Married M 40 1861 Cotton Weaver
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
RILEY, Rachael Wife Married F 40 1861
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
RILEY, Fredrick Son Single M 17 1884 Cotton Weaver
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
RILEY, Ernest Son Single M 15 1886 Cotton Weaver
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
RILEY, Harry Son Single M 11 1890
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
RILEY, Arthur Son Single M 8 1893
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
RILEY, Rachael Daughter Single F 6 1895
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
RILEY, Annie Daughter Single F 3 1898
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
RILEY, Leah Daughter Single F 0 (10 MOS) 1901
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 3905 Folio: 76 Page: 4 Registration District: Blackburn Civil Parish: Blackburn Municipal Borough: Address: 48, Artillery Street, Blackburn County: Lancashire


She is the daughter of Elisha Beckett and Ann and is noted as 8 months old in the 1860 census

I see the dilemma:

Births Dec 1859 (>99%)
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BECKETT Rachel Blackburn 8e 297

Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
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BECKETT Rachel Blackburn 8e 293

But the one whose birth was registered in Sept. 1860 wouldn't be aged 1 on the 61 census which was taken 7 April. So the one on the census must be the first one.

Edit: She's also the first one whose gravestone is online giving a birthdate of 10 Dec. 1859, Blackburn.
Ergo the daughter of William & Martha married Alfred Bury and emigrated.

The only way to confirm is to buy both certificates:

Births Dec 1859 (>99%)
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BECKETT Rachel Blackburn 8e 297

Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)
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Beckett Rachel Blackburn 8e 649
BURY Alfred Blackburn 8e 649

Hi everyone
My Rachel Beckett was born 1859 Blackburn, Lancashire to parents William Beckett and Martha Halliwell. I think Martha had 3 children - Rachel b. 1859; James Halliwell Beckett b. 1861 and Nancy Beckett b. 1864 all born Blackburn, before she died circa 1867
I think William Beckett then remarried in 1869 to a Betty Halliwell (don't know if she was a relation to Martha or not)
The marriage of Rachel Beckett to Alfred Bury was in 1883 according to the Lancashire BMD, not 1871 as on Ancestry.
If someone can find out the parents of either Rachel who married Alfred Bury or Rachel who married William Riley - I'd be so grateful.
Kind Regards
Margaret

Rachel who married William Riley parents are Elisha and Ann as posted above.
How is she connected to you??

Didn't I prove that Rachel born 1859, daughter of William & Martha was the one who married Alfred Bury and emigrated to USA?

How do you know she is YOUR Racel Beckett? i.e. how is she related to you and how did you get back to her?

Jude

Evidently not a direct ancestor, Jude, or Margaret would know who she married.

pm:

"Many thanks for your imput.
Unfortunately I don't have the exact birth- date of Rachel Beckett only the Lancashire BMD record of Rachel in 1859 born Blackburn. Mother's maiden name, Halliwell. B/82/46.
The birthdate on the headstone certainly ties in but I don't know if this Rachel Beckett who married Alfred Bury is my ancestor or the one who married William Riley - both Rachel's married in 1883 and both were recorded at the Blackburn Register Office so until I know her parents I can only guess.
Many thanks
Margaret"

Sorry Margaret - I thought you knew her parents?

Agree with Margee - the Rachel married to Arthur Bury is logistically more likely to be correct.

Margaret, PLEASE! Answer Jude's question. How did you get back to her? You say she's an ancestor?

Hi Everyone
Many thanks for all the information - I agree with Margee that my Rachel did in fact marry Arthur Bury and immigrate to the USA. Her parents were William Beckett and Martha Halliwell (my Great Grand Aunt) and Rachel born 1859 was my 1st cousin 2x removed.
Thanks Astra for your valuable info. regarding Rachel who married William Riley parents are Elisha and Ann which proves beyond a doubt that my Rachel married Arthur Bury
Once again thanks heaps!
Margaret.