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Richard and John Green

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lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 11 Nov 2012 13:58

as this is presumably Ann's birth reg, her mother's maiden name was Woodward which seems to indicate that Betty had not been married before and that Ann was illegitimate

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1867
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WOODWARD Ann Westhoughton Bolton WOODWARD WH/10/472

Marlene

Marlene Report 11 Nov 2012 10:30

Thankyou Choccy and lancashireAnn .
I did wonder whether Betty had married John first and then Richard because of Ann Woodward being stepdaughter of Richard .
So Betty could have been married to someone called Woodward before she married John and then Richard .Or else she had Ann before she was married in the first place .I will look on the 1871 again at the reference you have given me .for the marriage ofg John.
Thanks
Marlene

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 10 Nov 2012 14:15

for ref

Baptisms: 4 Aug 1850 St John the Baptist, Atherton, Lancashire, England
Richard Green - Son of Ann Green
Abode: Atherton
Notes: Base-born
Baptised by: Saml. Johnson M.A. Minister
Register: Baptisms 1850 - 1866, Page 6, Entry 41
Source: LDS Film 1885669

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1849
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GREEN Richard Atherton Wigan & Leigh GREEN ATH/8/264

Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Nov 2012 14:14



could she have married John first, and then married his brother Richard?



http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk



Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1873


GREEN Betty
GREEN Richard
Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended
Bolton RO/48/75


Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Nov 2012 14:11



http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1868


WOODWARD Betty
GREEN John
Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended
Bolton RO/39/2


Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Nov 2012 14:01



not sure about this -

1871

RG number: RG10
Piece: 3924
Folio: 90
Page: 56
Reg. District: Bolton
Sub District: Westhoughton
Parish: Westhoughton
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Wheat Sheaf Inn, Westhoughton
County: Lancashire

GREEN, John Head M 24 1847 Lancashire (born Atherton) - Coal miner
GREEN, Betsy Wife F 23 1848 Lancashire (Born Westhoughton)
GREEN, Ann Daughter F 4 1867 Lancashire
GREEN, Samuel Son M 2 1869 Lancashire
GREEN, Margt Daughter F 0 1871 Lancashire



1881

RG number: RG11
Piece: 3822
Folio: 43
Page: 41
Reg. District: Bolton
Sub District: West Houghton
Parish: West Houghton
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 3, Thomas St, West Houghton
County: Lancashire

GREEN, Richard Head Married M 30 1851 Coal Miner
Atherton, Lancashire
GREEN, Betty Wife Married F 33 1848 Dress Maker
Westhoughton, Lancashire
WOODWARD, Ann Step Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar
Westhoughton, Lancashire
GREEN, Samuel Son Single M 12 1869 Cotton Weaver
Westhoughton, Lancashire
GREEN, Frances Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Walkden, Lancashire
GREEN, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Walkden, Lancashire
GREEN, John Son Single M 1 1880
Westhoughton, Lancashire



Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Nov 2012 13:45


is this them?

1861

RG number: RG09
Piece: 2805
Folio: 13
Page: 20
Reg. District: Leigh
Sub District: 4 Atherton
Parish: Atherton
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Church Street, Atherton
County: Lancashire


MARSH, James Head Married M 63 1798 Small Ware Dealer
Atherton, Lancashire
MARSH, Nancy Wife Married F 63 1798
Atherton, Lancashire
MARSH, Nancy Daughter Unmarried F 22 1839 Silk Picker
Atherton, Lancashire
MARSH, Joseph Grandson M 2 1859
Atherton, Lancashire
MARSH, Sarah Ellen Granddaughter F 0 (7W) 1861
Atherton, Lancashire
MARSH, John Grandson Unmarried M 19 1842 Carter
Atherton, Lancashire
>>>>GREEN, Richard Grandson M 11 1850 Carter Boy
Atherton, Lancashire
GREEN, Margaret Granddaughter F 8 1853
Atherton, Lancashire

Marlene

Marlene Report 10 Nov 2012 13:31

Richard Green was born abt 1849 and John abt 1847 both in Atherton lancs.Mother was Ann Green and father was William Marsh [we think] who was lodging with Ann on the 1851 census .I believe I asked this before and you gave me the info .William was the brother of my G/G/Grandfather John marsh.I cannot find either Richard or John or even Ann Green on the 1861/71 census ,none that are close .I have Riachard on the 1881 and 1891 married to a Betty Woodward ,as on the 1881 Ann Woodward is the step Daughter of Richard .I have lloked for the Marriage of richard and Betty but no luck .On the 1881 census Samuel Green looks like their first child born abt 1869.
All I really want is to find out where they were in the 1861and71 census .
Any help would be great
Thanks
Marlene