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Hi,

Could someone with access to the Australian BMD's please see if they can find if the above man was the son of Thomas Cadell. Thomas was in the Govenment and at one time owned the house now called Kirribilly where the PM lives but was called Wotonga in his day. I have seen on the web that Thomas had 3 sons and 4 daughters and his wife was called Sophia Richardabella Doyle.

I ask as the above man came to live in the UK and called his house Wotonga. He is a relative. I am on Ancestry and have put these details on hoping for a hit.

Many thanks

Best wishes

Margaret

Oops, They are both Thomas. I mean was the Thomas in the Government the father of Thomas Oliver Lascelles.
Thanks

Margaret

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y

(worth a look round in Newspapers on above link)

1859 Marriage Notice
29th January. Thomas O.L. Cadell, eldest son of Thomas Cadell Esq, Somerset, England, to Sophia Richabella, relict of the late Bartholomew Doyle, Esq, of Killarney Plains, Namoi River.

Chris :)

edits (are you saying Birth 1859?)

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=86567850

Chris :)


Deaths Mar 1902 (>99%)
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Cadell Thomas Oliver L 42 Brentford 3a 45


(is above who you mean?)

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Thomas O L Cadell
Birth Date: 1859
Father's Name: Thomas Cadell
Mother's name: Sophia
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1859
Registration Place: Maitland, New South Wales
Registration number: 9135

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Thomas Oliver L Cadell
Spouse Name: Anne Mary Whitton
Marriage Date: 1882
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: St Leonards, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1882
Registration number: 3023

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Thomas Oliver Lascelles Cadell <<of Watonga, East Twickenham
Probate Date: 22 Feb 1902
Death Date: 31 Dec 1901
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England

To Archibald Rober Fowler- Solicitor £2380 15s

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Eily M Cadell
Birth Date: 1883
Father's Name: Thomas O L Cadell
Mother's name: Annie M
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1883
Registration Place: Camden, New South Wales
Registration number: 13729

Hi,

Yes Gins that's the wedding...my relative was Annie Mary Whitton and I'm sure that is her husbands birth.

Chris..can't quite get to grips with this....ok his father had the same name as him T.O.L.Cadell and his Grandfather was plain Thomas.

Margaret

I think the birth above should be Lily!


1891 England Census
about Lily M Caddell
Name: Lily M Caddell
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Caddell
Mother's name: Annie M Caddell
Gender: Female
Where born: Nsw, Australia

Civil parish: Bedfont
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Staines
Sub-registration district: Staines
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1016
Folio: 19
Page Number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Caddell 32
Annie M Caddell 31
Lily M Caddell 7
Edner L S Garner 24
Fanny L Cuper 27

thanks Gins....I do have that probate. The daughter's birth is good . She has been called various names, Lily in UK census and Iley in her death in 1900 in UK now Eily!

Margaret

Deaths Mar 1860 (>99%)
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Cadell Thomas Kensington 1a 20

(think above is connected, Probate also)

Chris :)

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18677033


http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/7132642?searchTerm=&searchLimits=l-publictag=Marriage%7C%7C%7Cl-title=The+Argus+(Melbourne%2C...%7Ctitleid%3A13


http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18653533


Deaths Mar 1857 (>99%)
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Cadell Elizabeth Williton 5c 263

Is this the fathers death?


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Thomas Cadell
Death Date: 1896
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration number: 5244

Looks that way Gins...the 1860 Death is his Father Thomas, Probate entry quite long!)

(Newspaper links added above)

Chris :)

Chris~~~

And his wife died in the UK


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Sophia Bechabella Cadell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1896
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 121

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Sophia Rechabella Cadell
Probate Date: 13 Nov 1896
Death Date: 14 Oct 1896
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England

His fathers baptism


County Somerset
Place Kilve
Church St Mary the Virgin
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 14 Sep 1835
Forename Thomas
Sex -
FatherForename Thomas
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname CADELL
MotherSurname St.Decs
Abode Gentleman
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 23838

~~~~~~sending a wave back Gins, lol.


Would say google and British Newspapers would be a help, quite a few snippets on this family.

Chris :)

And the family in 1841


1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Cadell
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil parish: Sampford Brett
Hundred: Williton and Freemanners
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Williton
Sub-registration district: Williton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 966
Book: 9
Folio: 4
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cadell 30 <<Ind means
Elizabeth Cadell 30
Thomas Cadell 7
Henry Cadell 6
Frederich Cadell 5
Elizabeth Cadell 4
Alfred Cadell 1 6 Mo

The parents marriage

County Somerset
Place Kilve
Church St Mary the Virgin
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 05 Oct 1832
GroomForename Thomas
GroomSurname CADELL
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode St. Decumans
BrideForename Boyes
BrideSurname ELIZABETH
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename
WitnessOneSurname
WitnessTwoForename
WitnessTwoSurname
Notes
FileNumber 23840

Hi Gins and Chris,

Thanks you are working hard on my behalf. Are either of you in Australia? I have seen Kirribilly House and it's beautiful.
Chris, on the find a grave site there is a Cadell family member answering queries so will contact her.

Thanks

Margaret

Im in sunny England!

Heres the baptism for Thomas


London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
Name: Thomas Cadell
Baptism Date: 14 Mar 1807 <<DOB March 19th 1806
Parish: St Pancras Old Church
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Parent(s): Thomas Cadell,
Elizabeth Cadell
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

The 1851 census states he was born in St Pancras


And his parents marriage


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Cadell Jr, Esq
Name: Thomas Cadell Jr, Esq
Spouse Name: Sophia Elizabeth Smith
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Mar 1802
Parish: St Michael Bassishaw
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Register