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Fanny/Frances Newton c1797, Barton, Lancs

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Mark

Mark Report 8 Nov 2012 11:39

Good Morning folks

As my top line says ... I am seeking information with regards to Fanny/Frances Newton c1797, Barton, Lancs who married William Houghton 1828 St, Peter and St, Paul. Ormskirk. I have no idea of parents or siblings. Many thanks

Potty

Potty Report 8 Nov 2012 11:55

Have you found Fanny on any census? I cannot find one with a POB of Barton.

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Nov 2012 11:57

Is this the couple in 1841?
1841 England Census about Francis Houghton
Name: Francis Houghton
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil parish: North Meols
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 514
Book: 4
Folio: 13
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
William Houghton 40
Francis Houghton 44
Samuel Houghton 13
Jane Houghton 8
Nancy Houghton 3
John Houghton 2 Mo

and again in 1861 :-

1861 England Census about Francis Houghton
Name: Francis Houghton
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Houghton
Gender: Female
Where born: N Meols, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: North Meols
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 145
Piece: 2760
Folio: 118
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
William Houghton 52
Francis Houghton 60
Ann Houghton 22
Thomas Houghton 17
Mathew Houghton 15
Mary Houghton 10
Ellen Houghton 8
Francis Houghton 2
............................

1871 England Census about Fanny Haughton
Name: Fanny Haughton
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Haughton
Gender: Female
Where born: Southport, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: North Meols
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Southport
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 115
Piece: 3875
Folio: 87
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
William Haughton 65 - occupation (Wheelwright)
Fanny Haughton 72
Mary Haughton 22
Fanny Haughton 12

Maddie

Maddie Report 8 Nov 2012 11:57

for reference
Banns: St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
William Houghton - Wheelwright of Scarisbrick
Frances Newton - Spinster of Ormskirk
Banns Read: 3 Feb 1828
Register: Banns 1826 - 1834, Page 13, Entry 2
Source: LDS Film 1849664

Mark

Mark Report 8 Nov 2012 11:58


1851 England Census
about Frances Houghton

Name:

Frances Houghton

Age:

46

Estimated Birth Year:

abt 1805

Relation:

Wife

Spouse's Name:

William Houghton

Gender:

F (Female)

Where born:

Barton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish:

North Meols

Town:

Southport

County/Island:

Lancashire

Country:

England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district:

Ormskirk

Sub-registration district:

Bickerstaffe

ED, institution, or vessel:

1d

Neighbors:

View others on page

Household schedule number:

44

Piece:

2196

Folio:

501

Page Number:

14

Household Members:

Name

Age

William Houghton

43

Frances Houghton

46

Samuel Houghton

23

Nancy Houghton

13

John Houghton

11

Thomas Houghton

8

Matthew Houghton

5

Mary Houghton

5 Mo

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Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Nov 2012 11:59

If so, then 1881 states she was born "At Sea":-

1881 England Census about Fanny Houghton
Name: Fanny Houghton
Age: 83
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Houghton
Gender: Female

Where born: (B), At Sea (B S - British Subject)

Civil parish: North Meols
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 118 Linaker St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3751
Folio: 89
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
William Houghton 73 - occupation (Wheelwright)
Fanny Houghton 83

Potty

Potty Report 8 Nov 2012 12:01

Where did you get Barton from. Banns for the marriage give her parishfirst as Melling and then as Ormskirk. Possibly moved from Melling to Ormskirk before the marriage:

Banns: St Thomas, Melling, Lancashire, England
William Haughton - Wheel Wright of this Parish
Frances Newton - Spinster of this Parish
Banns Read: 25 Nov 1827, 2nd: 2 Dec 1827
Register: Banns 1824 - 1861, Page 28, Entry 56
Source: LDS Film 1849660

Banns: St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
William Houghton - Wheelwright of Scarisbrick
Frances Newton - Spinster of Ormskirk
Banns Read: 3 Feb 1828
Register: Banns 1826 - 1834, Page 13, Entry 2
Source: LDS Film 1849664

Marriage: 18 Feb 1828 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
William Houghton - of Ormskirk
Frances Newton - of Ormskirk
Witness: James Longton; George Wignall
Married by Banns by: George.W.Bower Curate
Register: Marriages 1827 - 1837, Page 2, Entry 5
Source: LDS Film 1849664

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Nov 2012 12:01

1891 England Census about Fanny Houghton
Name: Fanny Houghton
Age: 93
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: North Meols
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Condition as to marriage: Widow (living on own means)

Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3038
Folio: 34
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Methuidah Hart 58
Ann Hart 52
Mary J Hart 21
Emma Hart 16
Ada Hart 13
Fanny Houghton 93
Mary Airy 64

Mark

Mark Report 8 Nov 2012 12:02

I went on lancs opc and i thought i had found the correct record

Mark

Mark Report 8 Nov 2012 12:04

She died in 1863 - found the death using ancestry

Potty

Potty Report 8 Nov 2012 12:33

How have you got back to her as the Fanny Houghton married to William, a wheelwright was on the census for 1881 so couldn't have died in 1863.

Mark

Mark Report 8 Nov 2012 12:40

my grandmother Dorothy Houghton 1916
my great grandfather William Arthur Houghton 1891
my great great grandfather William Henry Houghton 1866
my great great great grandfather Thomas Houghton 1843
my great great great great grandfather William 1808

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Nov 2012 12:46

Looks like Frances died in 1891 (just after the census), not 1863:-

Deaths Jun 1891 (>99%)
HOUGHTON Frances 92 Ormskirk 8b 728

Mark

Mark Report 8 Nov 2012 12:47

Aged 92 ........ Good age

Mark

Mark Report 9 Nov 2012 12:06

Still no idea of parents identities tho .....

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Nov 2012 14:06

Didn't you notice Catherine's 1881 info about where she was said to have been born?

And why did you suggest she died in 1863?

Please get rid of all the white space in your 1851 census posting...........where did that info come from?