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I would be most grateful for help in finding the Marriage of Charles WHILE to a lady named Jane, somewhere in Birmingham, Warwickshire, around 1837-1840. Census records inform me that Charles was a Brass Caster, born in London, Middlesex around 1813 - 1816. The couple's supposed first child, Fanny WHILE, was born around 1840. Daughter Jane and son Charles followed, in c. 1842 and 1846, respectively.The couple died in Aston in 1878 and 1875, respectively. I'm trying to find Charles' parents, but meeting great difficulty!

Thank you for any assistance.
Vic

Many thanks, Maddie. This is the right family. Unfortunately, I have found nothing in 1851, and the 1861 Census gives the Surname as WHITE!

can't see a marraige

this is a long shot

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Charles Wiles
Name: Charles Wiles
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 31 May 1818
Father's Name: Hugh William Wiles
Mother's name: Catharine Wiles
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

The birth certificate of one of the children should give you their mother's maiden name which may help find, or confirm a marriage!

Have you considered the possibility that Charles, and or, Jane were not their first names?
It was not uncommon that someone who had a middle name used their middle names on the census records, but official records were recorded under their first names.

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Charles While
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Jane
child: Charles Samuel While


name: Charles Samuel While
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 18 Oct 1852
baptism/christening place: SAINT MARTIN,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
father's name: Charles While
mother's name: Jane
indexing project (batch) number: C06300-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 919773, 919774, 919775

This is the 1851

WILDS, Charles Head Married M 40 1811 Brass Caster
London VIEW
WILDS, Jane Wife Married F 35 1816
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
WILDS, Fanny Daughter Unmarried F 11 1840
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
WILDS, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 7 1844
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
WILDS, Charles Son Unmarried M 3 1848
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
MASON, John Lodger Unmarried M 20 1831 Stamper
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
JADWICK, James Lodger Unmarried M 11 1840
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW

Piece: 2060 Folio: 303 Page: 15 Registration District: Aston Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: 18, Court, High Street Bordsley, Aston, Deritend & Bordersley Ward, Birmingham County: Warwickshire

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Births Sep 1850 (>99%)
Wall Charles Samuel Birmingham 16 302

Is this the family?

1871 England Census about Charles While
Name: Charles While
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane While
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bordesley
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Household schedule number: 62
Piece: 3138
Folio: 93
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles While 55
Jane While 53
Charles While 22 - 1849 born: Birmingham, Warwickshire
Jane Perry 13
Joseph Hayes 50

In case you don't have daughter Jane's marriage:-

England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," Charles While in entry for John Aucutt and Jane While, 1863
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groom's name: John Aucutt
groom's birth date: 1843
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 20
bride's name: Jane While
bride's birth date: 1842
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 21
marriage date: 25 Dec 1863
marriage place: St. George, Birmingham, Warwick, England
groom's father's name: John Aucutt
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Charles While
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: I03845-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 588404
reference number: 86
Citing this Record

"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJ89-26Q : accessed 05 Nov 2012), Charles While in entry for John Aucutt and Jane While, 25 Dec 1863; citing reference 86, FHL microfilm 588404.

Fanny While
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 26 May 1861 Saint George,?Birmingham,?Warwick,?England
spouse: Henry Thomas


groom's name: Henry Thomas
bride's name: Fanny While
marriage date: 26 May 1861
marriage place: Saint George,Birmingham,Warwick,England
indexing project (batch) number: M04178-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0588402-4

Other points to consider:-
Could be that the couple never married?
Maybe he, or she, was married to someone else?

Wow! Maddie, Catherine, AnnCardiff, Astra, & safc. Thank you all for this help. You are clearly up to the mark! I will now assimilate this info.

Kind regards
Vic

Just thought I'd add this:-

1871 England Census about Jane Aucott
Name: Jane Aucott
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Aucott
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Household schedule number: 32
Piece: 3138
Folio: 71
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
John Aucott 27
Jane Aucott 28
Charles Aucott 3
Jane Aucott 1
Harriet Aucott 3 Weeks
Sarah Grinnage 14
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How sad daughter Jane also died in 1878:-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Jane Aucott
Name: Jane Aucott
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1878
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 204

Catherine, Many thanks for this extra information. I will now try to home in on the Marriage of Charles WHILE and supposed wife Jane via the birth certificate of one of their children.

Kind regards
Vic