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James, Alice and Felix O'Nell Glasgow 1851

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stocket18

stocket18 Report 7 Nov 2012 01:06

thank you for taking an interest in my search.

I am still searching for James, Alice John and Felix.

They just vanish after the 1851 Census.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 5 Nov 2012 17:52

What about these..1851

NEIL Felix 23 yrs b Ireland Farm Lab. for Owen Keenan Possil Road St George Civil Parish

106 Saltmarket

O'NEIL Alice 60 widow b Ire.

O'Neil James 33 married b Ireland Lab
O'Neil Sarah 23 wife b Ireland
O'Neil Alice child 16mths b Lanarkshire



GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 5 Nov 2012 13:29

As far as I know, there are no lists of deaths from cholera.
Statutory records in Scotland did not start until 1855.
Deaths prior to this may be on a Mortcloth Schedule for the parish in which they were living at time of death.
I looked at the pre 1855 deaths and can find none that fit this family.
I did also look in the Catholic section, even although your family seem to be Church of Ireland.
There were no entries that fit.

Anne

stocket18

stocket18 Report 5 Nov 2012 12:55

Thank you for digging out information about the O'Neil family of Bridgegate Street.

After this date James, Alice Felix and John simply disappear. The sisters emmigrated to New York but the others did not accompany them

Did they die from cholera?

Are there Glasgow cholera death lists anywhere ?

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 4 Nov 2012 10:32


This is an Irish family living in the correct area of Glasgow at 1851, but the info doesn't quite match up


1851 Scotland Census about Felix Oneale
Name: Felix Oneale
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Oneale
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Parish Number: 644/1
Civil parish: Glasgow St James
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 29 Bridgegate Street Lane
Occupation: Schoolmaster
ED: 15
Page: 6 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 20
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1851_162
Household Members:
Name Age
Felix Oneale 61
Sarah Oneale 52
Felix Oneale 25
Peter Oneale 16
Ann Oneale 18
James Somerville 20
Ann Woods 12


Or this?

1851 Scotland Census about James Oneil
Name: James Oneil
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Alle Oneil
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Parish Number: 644/1
Civil parish: Glasgow St James
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 81 Bridgegate Street
Occupation: Journeyman Mason
ED: 17
Page: 38 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 112
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1851_162
Household Members:
Name Age
James Oneil 37
Alle Oneil 34
John Oneil 10
Margaret Oneil 8
Mary Oneil 6
Felex Oneil 4
John Henry 24
John Henry 23
Sarah Henry 19
Riddy Norris 15
Mary Mccarty 21
Malcom Murphy 47
Catharine Murphy 30
Anne Murphy 13


Edit:
I presume it is the family living at 81 Bridgegate Street

Ireland: 1841/1851 Census Abstracts (Northern Ireland) about James O'Neill
Name: James O'Neill
Relationship: Head
Marriage Year: 1840
Census Location: Londonderry
Census Year: 1841
Household Members:
Name Age
James O'Neill
Alice O'Neill 24
John O'Neill 3/12

Transcripton of 1841/1851 census abtract (NI)
James O'neill age 27 head m 1840. Alice 24, wife ( nee McCorley), John 3 months, son (CI).
Ballynian, Tamlaght O'Crilly, Loughinsholin, Londonderry 0993099

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Nov 2012 10:28

Possibly the 2 sisters who emigrated in 1852?

Baltimore, Passenger and Immigration Lists, 1820-1872
about Mary Oneill Name: Mary Oneill
Arrival Date: 20 Jul 1852
Age: 26
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Ship: Flora Macdonald
Ship Type: Ship
Port of Arrival: Baltimore
National Archives' Series Number: M255
Microfilm Roll Number: 9
List Number: 65


Baltimore, Passenger and Immigration Lists, 1820-1872
about Cicely Oneill Name: Cicely Oneill
Arrival Date: 20 Jul 1852
Age: 25
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Ship: Flora Macdonald
Ship Type: Ship
Port of Arrival: Baltimore
National Archives' Series Number: M255
Microfilm Roll Number: 9
List Number: 65

stocket18

stocket18 Report 4 Nov 2012 03:09

The O'Neill family hailed from Londonderry.

They established themselves in Bridgegate Street, (near the Saltmarket) on or about 1851. 1851 census provides details.

In 1852 two girls of the family accompanied by their aunt, (who resided with the family) emigrated to New York.

I can find no trace of their parents, (James & Alice) and their two brothers John and Felix.

I searched the official scottish government records without success.

A friend suggested they may have died in the 1951/2 cholera epidemic.

Any assistance would be much appreciated