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John Otley

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helen

helen Report 31 Oct 2012 09:15

Hi im wondering if anyone could kindly help me. I am looking for the where abouts of a JOHN OTLEY, approx born 1816 give or take a couple of years. He married ELIZABETH CRESWICK IN 1838 in Sheffield. He doesnt seem to be on the 1841 census, ive checked death records but things are not adding up.

Any information or help with this would be appreciated. thankyou :-)

Adeline

Adeline Report 31 Oct 2012 09:34

A tree on Ancestry suggests that he died 24 Nov 1842 in Sheffield. and that his wife died in Nov 1874.

This could be John's death on freebmd:

Deaths Dec 1842

Otley John Ecclesall Bierlow 22 63

Vera

Vera Report 31 Oct 2012 09:36

Do you know Johns occupation please.?

Regards Vera

Adeline

Adeline Report 31 Oct 2012 09:39

The 1841 census shows a John Otley in a debtors' prison and Elizabeth Otley in Eccleshall Bierlow Workhouse. Year of birth for both given as 1821.

However if the death in 1842 is correct it doesn't explain Elizabeth's appearance in the 1851 census with four children born between 1842 and 1851 unless they had a different father.
OTLEY, Elizabeth Head Widow F 32 1819 Sheffield, Yorkshire
OTLEY, Clara Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire
OTLEY, Samuel Son M 4 1847 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire
OTLEY, Emma Daughter F 2 1849 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire
OTLEY, Willis Son M 0 (4 MOS) 1851 Sheffield, Yorkshire
CRESWICK, Esther Sister F 17 1834 House Servant
Sheffield, Yorkshire
BRADLEY, Henry Lodger Married M 35 1816 Brass Turner
Sheffield, Yorkshire
BRADLEY, James Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Brass Turner
Sheffield, Yorkshire
SON, William M 9 1842 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire

(I think the last named should be William Bradley, son)

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 31 Oct 2012 09:45

Could this be your man?

Otley, John (of Sheffield, born 1817-05-15).
Baptised June 8, 1817, by M Preston at Sheffield Parish Church , Church Street, Sheffield .
Parents name(s) are Hannah & George (Edge Tool Maker).

http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/ParishBaptismIndex.html

Researching:
Weedon - Australia, Hertfordshire; Paterson - Scotland; Elmer - Huntingdon; Ball, Lloyd, Warren - Birmingham; Branson - Bucks;

helen

helen Report 31 Oct 2012 09:57

wow thankyou all so much for such a quick response.

Vera , im afraid i dont know his occupation sorry.

Adeline, you have got me very interested in your find, i will look into that more, and get back to you my findings. thankyou very much.

Beverley, thankyou i dont think it is though however i will look into it further.

Thankyou all so much you have certainly given me something to think about.

Helen

Adeline

Adeline Report 31 Oct 2012 09:58

Two further children born 1853 and 1855 listed with Elizabeth in 1861 and the lodger Henry Bradley is still in the household.

I can't see a birth registration for any of the children so sending for a birth certificate for one of them to check the father's name doesn't appear to be an option.