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Fell and Allen ancestors

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Graeme

Graeme Report 30 Oct 2012 10:40

Hi all,
I'm looking for any info on a Laura Allen who died in Greymouth NZ in 1923.
According to her death cert., she was born in Cornwall around 1860 and emigrated to NZ at about 3 years of age.
Her father's occupation is shown as "Medical Practitioner" but it does not show his first name.
Her mother is shown as Maria Amelia Allen (nee Fell).
Any info would be very appreciated.
Cheers,
Graeme.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Oct 2012 10:48

Have you tried using freebmd?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Interesting that her mother's full name is given, but her father's first name doesn't appear to have been known

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 30 Oct 2012 10:58

1861 England Census
about Laura Allen Name: Laura Allen
Age: 6 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: Henry Allen
Mother's name: Mary J Allen
Gender: Female
Where born: Probus, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Probus
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: Probus
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 147
Piece: 1552
Folio: 36
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
George Biddick 41
Susan Biddick 37
Mark Biddick 12
Hannah Biddick 11
Henry Allen 22
Mary J Allen 19
Laura Allen 6 Months

Edit: Not sure about this one, Mary J. Allen is a daughter of the Biddicks and Henry is just an ag lab.

Edit again: Not this one, the family is still in England on the 81 census.

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Oct 2012 11:02

2 x Laura Allen births Cornwall c 1860 (checked 1858-1863)

Dec Qtr 1860 Truro, Cornwall 5c 148
Sep Qtr 1860 Redruth, Cornwall 5c 270

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 30 Oct 2012 11:03

Then there's this one but father is a mason:

1861 England Census
about Loria Allen Name: Loria Allen
[Laura Allen]
Age: 10 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Allen
Mother's name: Dorothy Allen
Gender: Female
Where born: Camborne, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Camborne
Ecclesiastical parish: Camborne St Martin
Town: Camborne
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Redruth
Sub-registration district: Camborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 367
Piece: 1583
Folio: 114
Page Number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
John Allen 29
Dorothy Allen 26
Loria Allen 10 Months



MargaretM

MargaretM Report 30 Oct 2012 11:06

Possible?

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
about Laura Allen Name: Laura Allen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Age: 3
Arrival Date: 16 Nov 1863
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Marco Polo
Nationality: Irish


MargaretM

MargaretM Report 30 Oct 2012 11:11

There's no Allen/Fell marriage in Cornwall on FreeBMD.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Oct 2012 11:18

???

Births Sep 1861 FELL Laura Allen Norwich 4b 152

The only entry for a Maria Amelia Fell on Freebmd is this one.

Births Sep 1838 Fell Maria Amelia Norwich 13 238

1851

Name: Maria Amelia Fell
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Fell
Mother's name: Mary Ann Fell
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Norwich

Civil parish: Norwich St Stephen
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Mancroft
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Piece: 1815
Folio: 218
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Fell 48
Mary Ann Fell 48
Sarah Spoone Fell 22
Joseph Fell 19
William Fell 14
Maria Amelia Fell 12
James Fell 6
Susan Woodslack 17


Not seeing a marriage for that Maria and at the moment not seeing her on the 1861 census.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Oct 2012 11:21

Just plain Maria in 1861

Name: Joseph Fell
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Fell
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich

Civil parish: Norwich St Stephen
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Mancroft
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Piece: 1217
Folio: 67
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Fell 58
Mary A Fell 58
James Fell 17
Maria Fell 23

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Oct 2012 11:29

FMP version of the 1861 - surname FILE! Correction submitted
1861 census transcription details for: 35, Past Grocers Shop, King Street, St Stephens, Norwich

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 1217
Folio: 67
Page: 16
Reg. District: Norwich
Sub District: 4 Mancroft
Parish: St Stephens
Enum. District: 11
Ecclesiastical District: Norwich
City/Municipal Borough: Norwich
Address: 35, Past Grocers Shop, King Street, St Stephens, Norwich
County: Norfolk
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FILE, Joseph Head Married M 58 1803 Tailor Norwich
FILE, Mary A Wife Married F 58 1803 Norwich
FILE, James Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Butcher Norwich
FILE, Maria Daughter Unmarried F 23 1838 Dressmaker Norwich

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Oct 2012 11:38

I wonder if these people were travelling with the Laura that Margee posted?

Name: Rose Allen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Age: 23
Arrival Date: 16 Nov 1863
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Marco Polo
Nationality: Irish


Name: Pat Allen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Age: 20
Arrival Date: 16 Nov 1863
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Marco Polo
Nationality: Irish


Name: Agnes Allen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Age: 19
Arrival Date: 16 Nov 1863
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Marco Polo
Nationality: Irish


Name: Mary Allen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Age: 13
Arrival Date: 16 Nov 1863
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Marco Polo
Nationality: Irish


Name: John Allen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Age: 21
Arrival Date: 16 Nov 1863
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Marco Polo
Nationality: English