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Rosemary

Rosemary Report 29 Oct 2012 11:24

I am looking for a Thomas McKay born 1903 the son of George McKay a dock labourer living in the Liverpool area in 1911 census, have looked myself but can find nothing.
Also looking for an Annie Thompson born Mar 1911 daughter of Edward Thompson a bricklayer in the Liverpool area again I have looked but cannot find them.
Please can someone help?
Rosemary

Potty

Potty Report 29 Oct 2012 11:41

Where did you get George from? Was it from Thomas's marriage cert?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2012 11:43

Cant see them with the info you give for fathers names. have you got their actual birth certs for parents names?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2012 11:46

not with father Edward but has a brother Edward
1911 census transcription details for: 291 Brook St Birkenhead

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN21980 RG78PN1308 RD452 SD1 ED23 SN67
Reg. District: Birkenhead
Sub District: Birkenhead
Parish: Birkenhead
Enum. District: 23
Address: 291 Brook St Birkenhead
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
THOMPSON, John Head Married M 37 1874 Dock Labourer Ches Birkenhead
THOMPSON, Winifred Wife Married
17 years F 35 1876 Lanc Wigan
THOMPSON, Ellen Daughter Single F 15 1896 Ches Birkenhead
THOMPSON, Frederick Son M 14 1897 School Ches Birkenhead
THOMPSON, James Son M 12 1899 School Ches Birkenhead
THOMPSON, Lavinia Daughter F 11 1900 School Ches Birkenhead
THOMPSON, Janet Daughter F 9 1902 School Ches Birkenhead
THOMPSON, Edward Son M 7 1904 School Ches Birkenhead
THOMPSON, Josephine Daughter F 6 1905 School Ches Birkenhead
THOMPSON, Kathleen Daughter F 4 1907 Ches Birkenhead
THOMPSON, Winifred Daughter F 2 1909 Ches Birkenhead
THOMPSON, Annie Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Ches Birkenhead

Potty

Potty Report 29 Oct 2012 11:57

The nearest I can find for Thomas has father as Archibald who is dock labourer. Did Thomas have any brothers or sisters?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 29 Oct 2012 12:01

Are you assuming that because the marriage took place in West Derby Lancashire that that is where they were living in 1911??

Who were the witnesses on the marriage cert?



Marriages Dec 1932 (>99%)
McKay Thomas Thompson W.Derby 8b 1167
Thompson Annie McKay W. Derby 8b 1167

Rosemary

Rosemary Report 29 Oct 2012 12:14

Got the info from marriage certificate for Thomas McKay and Annie Thompson.
From the certificate one of the witness was an Ellen Pedder discovered that an Ellen McKay married a Harold Pedder. Found Ellen's death which gives her date of birth as 27 Mar 1911. So in the 1911 census Thomas born 1903 should be with a sister Ellen born 1911 with a father George.
Also on marriage certificate it says George McKay was deceased.
The other witness was a Michael Woods.
I think I will buy the birth certificate for Ellen and see who the mother is, just incase Thomas was not born in Liverpool.
Thanks to the others for looking up Annie Thompson.
Thanks for helping I will keep checking the board to see if anyone can find anything.

Potty

Potty Report 29 Oct 2012 12:46

The address from Ellen's birth cert might help to find them on the 1911.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 29 Oct 2012 13:11

???? - I wonder about this chap

1901

Name: George W Mc Tray
[George William McKay]
[George W McKay]
[George W McKay]
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James A Mc Tray
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: Edge Hill St Catherine
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 21 Edgeward Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 180
Piece: 3493
Folio: 91
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
James A Mc Tray 43
Ellen E Mc Tray 22
George W Mc Tray 20 Railway Porter
John J Mc Tray 18
Alexander Mc Tray 16
Elizabeth Mc Tray 13
Walter H Mc Tray 11
Thomas H Mc Tray 4
Harry V Mc Tray 3 Months
Mary Clark 67

???

Marriages Sep 1902
Bennett Hannah Liverpool 8b 31
Keeley Edward Liverpool 8b 31
McKay George William Liverpool 8b 31
Parker Mary Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 31


EDIT

Not that one he is with his wife in 1911 and the children don't match those you are looking for . I will leave it on for elimaination purposes.

1911

Name: Hannah McKay
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 29 Cardwell St
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: West Derby Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Piece: 22591
Household Members: Name Age
Geo W McKay 30
Hannah McKay 28
Agnes McKay 6
Geo W McKay 5
John James McKay 28


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2012 13:11

Have you looked for the births of these two people?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2012 13:18

Further to the marriage info above.............

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1902
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference

MCKAY George W BENNETT Hannah Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/97/322

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2012 13:21

For info ONLY

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1929
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MCKAY Ellen PEDDER Harold Liverpool, St. Francis Xavier Liverpool 3001/10/234

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2012 13:32

You can't be certain that Ellen was Thomas's sister............unless, of course, you have her marriage cert

Her death cert should record her place of birth

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2012 13:33

When and where did Thomas and Annie die?

Rosemary

Rosemary Report 29 Oct 2012 14:20

Thomas McKay died 1979 Liverpool Merseyside states birth as 25 Sep 1903. Annie died 1987 Liverpool Lancashire states birth as 27 Mar 1911.
No I don't know if Ellen is Thomas's sister only assuming, and I don't have Ellen McKay marriage certificate.
Thomas and Annie were married at St Francis Xavier.
Address at time of marriage for Thomas McKay is 109 Canterbury Road Liverpool, and the address for Annie Thompson is 142 Field Street Everton. Included address incase it is of any help.