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im looking for dorothy james born abt 1884 in birmingham i cannot find anything about her until the 1911 census which says she is an adopted sister to my grandad, any help anyone can give would be gratefully received many thx tasha :-D

Can you either post the census please Natasha or tell us who you Grandfather was?

So this is her?? Was she usually known as Dolly? She was almost the same age as the couple adopting her??

1911 census transcription details for: 7 Russell Grove Grosvenor St West Birkmingham
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN17991 RG78PN1095 RD384 SD1 ED3 SN282
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: Ladywood
Parish: Birmingham
Enum. District: 3
Address: 7 Russell Grove Grosvenor St West Birkmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
JAMES, Frederick A Husband Married
7 years M 30 1881 Polisher Bradford
JAMES, Marion Wife Married F 28 1883 Birmingham
JAMES, Frederick Son M 4 1907 Birmingham
BUMFORD, Alice F Boarder Married F 34 1877 Wolverhampton
>>JAMES, Dolly Adopted Daughter F 25 1886 Birmingham

Possible marriage for Frederick.

Civil Registration event: Marriage
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Name: JAMES, Frederick Albert
Registration district: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1904
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 6D
Page no: 202

MarriageFinder: Frederick Albert James married one of the following people:

>>?? PICKARD, Marica The image does read Marion

BAXTER, Amelia

ROE, John

Looking at the image..........would anyone agree that she is actually 2 yrs old and not 25??

That's exactly what I thought Prickles!

It could possibly be 2. The enumerator had made a few mistakes which he had corrected. Frederick and Marion had had 2 children but 1 had died by 1911.

It looks to me as if the figure after the 2 has been crossed out and replaced with 2.

The census was filled in by Frederick...........he seems to have made a bit of a mess of it!

thx for all the replies i have got the 1911 census but didnt think they would have the age that mixed up but its a big help . as u maybe able to tell i havent been doin this for very long x :-)

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Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
James Dorrie Eunice W Bromwich 6b 801

i have checked for births in 1909 for dorothy and i have come up with a few possibles but not sure if im goin to get any further as its sayin she was adopted ,so i might have come to a dead end there but thx agin for all ur help tasha :-D

i have checked for births in 1909 for dorothy and i have come up with a few possibles but not sure if im goin to get any further as its sayin she was adopted ,so i might have come to a dead end there but thx agin for all ur help tasha :-D

Don't know if it was a Birmingham thing or elsewhere too but someone with the name Dorothy was known as Dolly aswell as Dot.

Dolly or Doll was a very common diminutive for Doris.

But there's no knowing what her name was at birth........and no official adoption until the mid-1920's

In those days, children born out of wedlock were often 'adopted' within the family.

???

name: Dorothy Sabin James
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 08 Dec 1909
baptism/christening place: Birmingham, Warwick, England
birth date: 28 Oct 1909
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name:
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Bessie James
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04279-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1520137
reference number: in522 p31