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Ahhh yes, Stuart. I've just seen that. That can't be the right family then.

I definitely think that Doris's birth certificate is needed to establish the parent's names.

Kath. x

Rosa's surname on the 1911 census original is Wren

If she had the children to someone else but without marrying then the children would be registered in her name at the time - which would still be Wilkins.

Kath. x

Doris's birth certificate would give you her parent's full names:-


Name: WILKINS, Doris W
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1920
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Issitt
Volume no: 6B
Page no: 966

Kath. x

Was looking at that KAthleen, but if she was widow Wilkins in 1911, how do you get 4 Wilkins births post 1911

This is Rosa in the 1911 census as a widow with some children named Wilkins - not sure which are Rosa's though:-

1911 census transcription details for: 21 Ho Court 5 Catherine St Aston Manor

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN18303 RG78PN1102 RD385 SD4 ED34 SN341
Reg. District: Aston
Sub District: Aston Manor
Parish: Aston Manor
Enum. District: 34

Address: 21 Ho Court 5 Catherine St Aston Manor
County: Warwickshire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

WILKINS, Sahah Head F 72 1839 Staffordshire
WILKINS, Rosa Daughter Widow F 32 1879 Pension By Railway C Warwickshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
WREN, Thomas Henry Grandson M 8 1903 Warwickshire
WREN, George Ernest Grandson M 4 1907 Warwickshire
WREN, Ernest Grandson M 1 1910 Warwickshire
WILKINS, William Grandson M 12 1899 Warwickshire<<<<<<<<<<
WILKINS, George Ernest Son Widower M 29 1882 Labourer General Warwickshire
WILKINS, Sarah Jane Granddaughter F 6 1905 Warwickshire
WILKINS, Barbara Rose Granddaughter F 9 1902 Warwickshire

Kath. x

If the above is correct here they are in 1901:-

1901 census transcription details for: 60, Sun Street, Rugby, Town

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2917
Folio: 63
Page: 36
Reg. District: Rugby
Sub District: Rugby
Parish: Rugby
Enum. District: 24
Ecclesiastical District: Rugby St Andrews
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 60, Sun Street, Rugby, Town
County: Warwickshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

WILKINS, Ernest Head Married M 20 1881 Railway Carriage Cleaner
Burton on Trent, Staffordshire
WILKINS, Rose Wife Married F 20 1881
Rugby, Warwickshire

Kath. x

The births index proved the ones we knew about - unfortunatly the children prior to that didnt have the mothers maiden name listed so we can't prove which ones were siblings

Could this be the parent's marriage:-


Name: WILKINS, Ernest
Registration district: Rugby
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1901
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 6D
Page no: 618

MarriageFinder: Ernest Wilkins married one of the following people:

ISSITT, Rose Anna<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
SMITH, Margaret Helen
IBBOTSON, Herbert James

Kath. x

Louise, have you looked on freeBMD for births in surname Wilkins with mother surname Issitt? http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Hi All

Although I've already posted on here for Fred ford, trying to find another family line. Doris Wilkins b. 1920 in Burton on trent, was the youngest of a few children (we know about 4 for certain). Her mothers maiden name was Issitt, but thats all we know. Can't seem to find much else.

Thanks
Louise