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Anna Cron and Jeannie Cron

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Susan

Susan Report 28 Oct 2012 15:02

Hi
I think I have found Anna Cron married to a George John Pacey they were living in Petersham New South Wales in1935,1954, but George was with a Robert Pacey in 1958 3 New Canterbury Road, George is stated as a seaman. If anyone knows of any records for seaman in Australia it would be very helpful.
Sue

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Oct 2012 12:44

Not seeing anything of note after 1828 - what else do you know about him?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Oct 2012 12:42

1828 New South Wales, Australia Census (TNA Copy)
Name: Henry Payne
Arrival Date: 1826
Vessel: England
Piece: HO 10/25
Province: New South Wales
Title: Census M-R
Year(s): 1828
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806

Confirms that he was sentenced 7 years.
Residence looks like 14 Rose Party.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Oct 2012 12:19

That would be this Henry Payne:

New South Wales, Australia, Convict Indents, 1788-1842
Name: Henry Payne
Age: 19
Date of Conviction: 3 Jun 1824
Place of Conviction: London
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Vessel: England (1)
Port of Arrival: Sydney Cove
Date of Arrival: 18 Sep 1826

Can't make out the crime - will look elsewhere. He was an errand boy from London.
5ft 5in tall, ruddy reckled complexion, brown hair and grey eyes. Had a large raised mark inside joint of right elbow and "MJ x HP" on left arm.
_____________________________________________________________________

New South Wales, Australia Convict Ship Muster Rolls and Related Records, 1790-1849
Name: Henry Payne
Vessel: England
Arrival Year: 1826
Date of Conviction: 3 Jun 1824
_____________________________________________________________________

The English record has him a little younger:

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Henry Payne
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Date of Trial: Jun 1824
Trial Year: 1824
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Transportation - 7 years

Tried June Quarter sessions at Old Bailey. Crime was "Larceny from a Person"

Link to the trial transcript:
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18240603-120-defend1021&div=t18240603-120#highlight

Susan

Susan Report 21 Oct 2012 10:54

Hi
We know that Anna Married and lived in Adelaide but not who she married.Jeannie we know married someone named Pacey/Paicey and had two children Robert and Jean Marie.
Also I am looking for a Henry Payne who was transported to New South Wales on the 18 Sept 1826.
Sue

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Oct 2012 19:57

http://www.uboat.net/allies/merchants/crews/person/11411.html

(not sure if above related?)

Chris :)

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

(above link could help, credits needed)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Oct 2012 19:48

Looks like Anna returning for a visit:

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Anna Cron
Birth Date: abt 1902
Age: 26
Port of Departure: New Zealand
Arrival Date: 7 Jul 1928
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane [Hobart] [Melbourne] [Colombo]
Ship Name: Jervis Bay
Shipping Line: Australian Commonwealth Line of Steamers
Official Number: 150187

She was a waitress headed to Lilac Cottage, Crieff.

Dea

Dea Report 19 Oct 2012 19:46

Does this have any connection ??

1901 census transcription details for: Hill Street, Crieff
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 342
Folio: 8
Page: 5
Reg. District: Crieff
Sub District:
Parish:
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Hill Street, Crieff
County: Perthshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CRON, Robert Head Married M 35 1866 Labourer Distillery
Crieff, Perthshire
CRON, Jessie Wife Married F 30 1871
Crieff, Perthshire
CRON, John Gordon Son M 6 1895 Scholar
Crieff, Perthshire
CRON, Lizzie Daughter F 8 1893 Scholar
Crieff, Perthshire
CRON, Jeannie Daughter F 3 1898
Crieff, Perthshire
CRON, Robert Son M 1 1900
Crieff, Perthshire

Dea Xxx

Andrew

Andrew Report 19 Oct 2012 19:45

Maybe

1901 Scotland Census
about Jeannie Cron
Name: Jeannie Cron
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Robert Cron
Mother's name: Jessie Cron
Gender: Female
Where born: Crieff, Perthshire
Registration number: 342
Registration district: Crieff
Civil parish: Crieff
Town: Crieff
County: Perthshire
Address: No Hill Street
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 26a
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1901_118
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Cron 35
Jessie Cron 30
John Gordon Cron 6
Lizzie Cron 8
>>>>Jeannie Cron 5
Robert Cron 1


Andy

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Oct 2012 19:44

Name: Jeannie CRON
Date of departure: 15 February 1927
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Adelaide, Australia
Passenger destination: Adelaide, Australia
Date of Birth: 1899 (calculated from age)
Age: 28
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Clerk
Passenger recorded on: Page 10 of 17
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
MORETON BAY
F J Ogilvie
Australian Commonwealth Line
Australia
20034
13850
647

(last UK address as, Reception Office, St. Enoch Hotel, St. Enoch Sq. Glasgow)

Chris :)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Oct 2012 19:39

Possible -

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Miss Anna CRON
Date of departure: 26 November 1928
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Adelaide
Destination country: Australia

Date of Birth: 1901 (calculated from age)
Age: 27
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Waitress
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 21
Ship: ESPERANCE BAY
Official Number: 140148
Master's name: R Mckenzie
Steamship Line: Aberdeen
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 20033
Registered tonnage: 8415
Passengers on voyage: 627

Last address in the UK had been Lilac Cottage, Cruff, Perthshire.



It wasn't her first trip to Oz, she first went 5 years earlier:

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Anna CRON
Date of departure: 15 December 1923
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Adelaide
Destination country: Australia

Date of Birth: 1901 (calculated from age)
Age: 22
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Domestic
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 11 of 21
Ship: ESPERANCE BAY
Official Number: 140148
Master's name: Captain R Mackenzie
Steamship Line: Australian Commonwealth Line
Where bound: Australia
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 8451
Passengers on voyage: 726

Address then had been c/o Rose, 62 Northport Street, Queens Cross, Glasgow.

Dea

Dea Report 19 Oct 2012 19:38

P.S. - welcome to the boards !! :-)

Dea x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Oct 2012 19:38

Hello Sue, welcome to the boards.

You need to tell us where and when they were born for a start.

If you don't know that then you need to tell us how you came across them - who are they connected to?

Dea

Dea Report 19 Oct 2012 19:37

We would need to know a little more if we are able to help you !

Do you know when and where they were born?

Or anything else about them - parents, siblings etc ???

Dea x

Susan

Susan Report 19 Oct 2012 19:28

I am looking for information on these two sister,s who went to Australia in 1927 and 1928.
Sue