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18 Oct 2012 10:43 |
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Hi Can anyone discover for me if allen/allan parr born 1848 in wigan and wife sarah nee rudd had any more children after james a parr in 1880 . James was born in burnley around 1880 and i am trying to discover if a william born in 1882 is their son. yours hopefully shirley :-)
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18 Oct 2012 10:51 |
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1891 England Census about James A Parr Name: James A Parr Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Son Father's Name: Allan Parr Mother's name: Sarah Parr Gender: Male Where born: Burnley, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Habergham Eaves Ecclesiastical parish: Gannow St John County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Registration district: Burnley Sub-registration district: Burnley ED, institution, or vessel: 51 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3370 Folio: 75 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Allan Parr 40 Sarah Parr 42 Jane Parr 17 Sarah A Parr 15 Margaret Parr 13 James A Parr 10 William Parr 8 John T Parr 5 Joseph Parr 1 Samuel Parr 38
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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18 Oct 2012 10:51 |
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several more up to 1891
1891 census transcription details for: 3, Unwin Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley
Print Close National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 3370 Folio: 75 Page: 4 Reg. District: Burnley Sub District: Burnley Parish: Habergham Eaves Enum. District: 51 Ecclesiastical District: St Johns City/Municipal Borough: Burnley Address: 3, Unwin Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born PARR, Allan Head Married M 40 1851 Coal Miner Wigan, Lancashire PARR, Sarah Wife Married F 42 1849 Weaver Cotton Wigan, Lancashire PARR, Jane Daughter Single F 17 1874 Cotton Spinner Belmont, Durham PARR, Sarah A Daughter Single F 15 1876 Cotton Spinner Belmont, Durham PARR, Margaret Daughter F 13 1878 Cotton Piecer Burnley, Lancashire PARR, James A Son M 10 1881 Cotton Piecer Burnley, Lancashire PARR, William Son M 8 1883 Scholar Burnley, Lancashire PARR, John T Son M 5 1886 Scholar Burnley, Lancashire PARR, Joesph Son M 1 1890 Burnley, Lancashire PARR, Samuel Lodger Married M 35 1856 Coal Miner Wigan, Lancashire
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18 Oct 2012 10:54 |
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Name: John T Pan [John T Parr] Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Burnley, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Hemsworth Ecclesiastical parish: Hemsworth St Helen Town: Hemsworth County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Hemsworth Sub-registration district: Hemsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 210 Piece: 4307 Folio: 172 Page Number: 39 Household Members: Name Age Charles Elwood 47 Mary Elwood 46 Lily Elwood 8 Alan Pan 54 Sarah Pan 54 Willie Pan 19 John T Pan 16 Joseph Pan 11 Joe Fish 55
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18 Oct 2012 10:55 |
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doesnt seem to be any more after Joseph
1901 census transcription details for: York Street, Hemsworth
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 4307 Folio: 172 Page: 39 Reg. District: Hemsworth Sub District: Hemsworth Parish: Hemsworth Enum. District: 15 Ecclesiastical District: Hemsworth (St Helens) City/Municipal Borough: Address: York Street, Hemsworth County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born ELWOOD, Charles Head Married M 47 1854 Coal Miner Hewer Bulwell, Nottinghamshire ELWOOD, Mary Wife Married F 46 1855 Newark, Nottinghamshire ELWOOD, Lily Daughter Single F 8 1893 Bulwell, Nottinghamshire PARR, Alan Boarder Married M 54 1847 Coal Miner Hewer Burnley, Lancashire PARR, Sarah Boarder Married F 54 1847 Wigan, Lancashire PARR, Willie Boarder Single M 19 1882 Coal Miner Trammer Burnley, Lancashire PARR, John T Boarder Single M 16 1885 Coal Miner Driver Burnley, Lancashire PARR, Joseph Boarder Single M 11 1890 Burnley, Lancashire FISH, Joe Boarder Single M 55 1846 Coal Miner Hewer N K, Yorkshire
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18 Oct 2012 10:56 |
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Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911 about Mergaret Parr Name: Mergaret Parr Birth Date: 1 May 1878 Baptism Date: 22 Jul 1882 Parish: Gannow, St John Father: Allen Parr Mother: Sarah Parr Reference Number: Pr 2812/1 Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911 about William Parr Name: William Parr Birth Date: 31 Dec 1882 Baptism Date: 8 Mar 1883 Parish: Gannow, St John Father: Allen Parr Mother: Sarah Parr Reference Number: Pr 2812/1 England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about James Allen Parr Name: James Allen Parr Gender: Male Birth Date: 1 May 1880 Christening Date: 22 Feb 1882 Christening Place: Gannow, Lancashire, England Age at Christening: 1 Father's Name: Allen Parr Mother's name: Sarah England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Ellen Parr Name: Ellen Parr Gender: Female Birth Date: 31 Dec 1884 Christening Date: 22 Jan 1885 Christening Place: Gannow, Lancashire, England Age at Christening: 0 Father's Name: Allan Parr Mother's name: Sarah England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about John Thomas Parr Name: John Thomas Parr Gender: Male Birth Date: 13 Feb 1886 Christening Date: 26 Dec 1886 Christening Place: Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England Age at Christening: 0 Father's Name: Allan Parr Mother's name: Sarah
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18 Oct 2012 11:06 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Ellen Parr Name: Ellen Parr Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1885 Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Burnley Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 128
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18 Oct 2012 11:09 |
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thanks gang. I noticed james dying in 1891 and i wondered if the parrs had any more sons to carry on the family name, and seems that they did. I think, b ut not certain that william maybe married elizabeth atkinson in burnley around 1908, so seems at least he came back from hemsworth, ? They had two children who died named alan parr and ethel parr in 1913 and 1916. I was trying to track death of allen and sarah, but not found yet. :-)
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18 Oct 2012 11:14 |
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Deaths Sep 1907 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PARR Allan 54 Hemsworth 9c 88
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 Name: Sarah Parr Birth Date: abt 1851 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1926 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: Burnley Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 224
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18 Oct 2012 11:30 |
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thanks gins :-)
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18 Oct 2012 13:20 |
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1911 England Census about Sarah Parr Name: Sarah Parr Age in 1911: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Female Birth Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Brierley County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street Address: 22 Joseph St Grimethorpe Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Servant Registration district: Hemsworth Registration District Number: 506 Sub-registration district: Hemsworth Western ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Piece: 27530 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Smethurst 50 John Smethurst 20 William Turnier 51 John Connor 36 Peter McHale 36 James McDonald 34 James Gleeson 31 Sarah Parr 64 Just checking where they were in 1911. So it looks like that death for Allan is correct. Maybe Sarah went back to Burnley
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18 Oct 2012 21:10 |
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Yes, she did, she is buried in burnley, died in 1926. She maybe went to live with her daughter elizabeth duxbury nee parr or son william as william also went to live back in burnley too. thanks gins.
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18 Oct 2012 22:50 |
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Using http://www.northeastbmd.org.uk/ Surname Forename(s) Year District RUDD Sarah 1870 Durham Central PARR Allan 1870 Durham Central Register No. - Entry No. - District DCREG 19 - 62 - Durham Central (1870) [So either a rego office marr or a non-conformist marr]
Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1878 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference PARR Margaret Burnley Preston RUDD BU/121/70
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1880 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference PARR James Allen Burnley Preston RUDD BU/132/59
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1882 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference PARR William Burnley Preston BU/143/61
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1885 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference PARR Ellen Burnley Preston BU/159/25
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1890 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference PARR Joseph Burnley Preston BU/192/47
I guess Sarah's MS will get retrofitted to Wm's birth entry in the next block of 10 rego books, prob before end of year. Jos's will next y as it's 58 rego books to go before they get to him.
1911 England Census [Sarah P marr 40 y 7 live births 7 still living - both entries crossed out by enumerator]
7 live births is credible, but not quite right - it matches 1891, but 7 still living? I guess her landlady didn't know that bit:
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1885 Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference PARR Ellen 0 Burnley Preston BU/104/97
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1891 Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference PARR James Allen 11 Burnley Preston BU/130/55
Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ Burial: 1 Jul 1891 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs. James Allen Parr - Age: 11yrs Abode: Union St Grave: A8795 Notes: Buried in a Public Grave Gender: M Register: Burials 1890 - 1895, Page 76, Entry 39038 Source: Original Registers Book 6
Grave: A15082 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs. Burials in this grave: Name Age Abode Gender Source Register Date buried 1 Sarah Parr 75yrs 118 Briercliffe Road F Book 12 #95619 27 Feb 1926 2 Clifford Jolly 2yrs 13 Roebuck Street M Book 14 #108186 1 Aug 1936 3 James Edward Cox 69yrs 28 Roebuck Street M Book 15 #115197 22 Aug 1942 4 Jane Cox 80yrs 8 Belford Street F Book 16 #126614 23 Jan 1954
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1892 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference PARR Jane COX Edward Burnley, St Peter Preston CE111/10/206
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1894 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference PARR Sarah Ann ASHWORTH Thomas Burnley, St Peter Preston CE111/10/358
Banns: St Peter, Burnley, Lancs. Edward Cox - of this Parish Jane Parr - of St John's Parish, Gannow First Reading: 4 Sep 1892; Read By: S Edmond Clarke Second Reading: 11 Sep 1892; Read By: Alfred B. Edlestone Third Reading: 18 Sep 1892; Read By: Alfred B. Edlestone Register: Banns 1886 - 1900, Page 150, Entry 445 Source: LDS Film 1517691
Banns: St Peter, Burnley, Lancs. Thomas Ashworth - of this Parish Sarah Ann Parr - of St John's Parish, Gannow First Reading: 11 Nov 1894; Read By: A. B. Edlestone Second Reading: 18 Nov 1894; Read By: A. B. Edlestone Third Reading: 25 Nov 1894; Read By: M. W. Hall Register: Banns 1886 - 1900, Page 204, Entry 616 Source: LDS Film 1517691
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5 Nov 2012 18:55 |
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thanks for all that info everyone, youve been great. fantasticv help. !!! shirley :-D
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