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Name: Elizabeth Manston
Record Type: Birth
Estimated Birth Date: 6 Dec 1851
Mother's Name: Eliza Manston
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George the Martyr (Workhouse)
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers
(illegitimate)

Chris :)

The only births/deaths that I can see in the same Registration District as Julia with the surname of Manston are below, Could Thomas Ranger have been a previous son of Richard Ranger's?

Births Dec 1851 (>99%)
Manston Elizabeth St Geo Southk 4 503

Births Jun 1856 (>99%)
MANSTON William Henry St George S. 1d 141

Deaths Jun 1856 (>99%)
Manston William Henry St. George S 1d 95

Thank you all for your quick replys.
K,
Do you know how many children did Sabina and was 1 of them Thomas or George.

Since all your responses i have checked FBMD and have found George Thomas Ranger b1851 at Hackney and a George Thomas Ranger died 1887 aged 37 at lambeth.
If he is the right Thomas father of Henry he was born 9yrs after Sabrina and Richard married in 1860.

Regards,
Peter

Maybe Thomas Smith(sorry Ranger) is a fiction on the marriage cert and Henry was the child of Julia or Elizabeth with a Mr Smith?

Births Sep 1871 (>99%)
RANGER Henry Smith St. Saviour 1d 49

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1841 England Census
Name: Sabina Manston
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Luke
Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 15 RatcliffeTerrace
Occupation:F.S.
Registration district: St Luke
Sub-registration district: Old Street
Piece: 667
Book: 1
Folio: 58
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Treggon 70
William Treggon 35
Richard Gale 40
Henry Kuest 15
Sabina Manston 19

Although there are banns for a marriage between Richard and Sabina I can't see a marriage.

Name: Sabina Eliza Manston
Spouse Name: Richard Ranger
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 21 Oct 1860
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Register

Looks like most of Sabina's children were born pre marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1848 (>99%)
Manston Julia St Geo Southwark 4 448

Name: Richard Ranger
Spouse Name: Sabina Eliza Manston
Record Type: Banns (7/14/21 Oct.)
Event Date: 21 Oct 1860
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Register

Chris :)

parents: William Manston,? Elizabeth

name: Sabina Eliza Manston
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 09 Jul 1820
baptism/christening place: SAINT MARY-ST MARYLEBONE ROAD,ST MARYLEBONE,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 17 Jun 1820
father's name: William Manston
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C03524-6
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 580908, 580909, 580910

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1871 England Census
Name: Eliza Ranger
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard Ranger
Gender: Female
Where born: Banbury, Oxfordshire, England <<<<<
Civil parish: St George the Martyr Southwark
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 51 Little Surrey St
Occupation: Charwoman <<<<<
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Borough Road
Piece: 604
Folio: 88
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Ranger 54 - Labourer; Chelmsford, Essex
Eliza Ranger 48
Julia Ranger 22
Elizabeth Ranger 19
Eliza Ranger 11

Name: Henry George Erenest Ranger (Coach Painter)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Age: 20
Spouse Name: Louisa Elizabeth Bessie Prior
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Jun 1892
Parish: Walworth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Ranger (Deceased)
Register Type: Parish Register
(witnesses Thomas Prior, Alice Jones)

Chris :)

1881 (for reference)
RANGER, Surbiner Head Widow F 60 1821 Charwoman
Banbury, Oxfordshire
RANGER, Henry Granson Single M 9 1872 Scholar
St George Martyr, Surrey
Piece: 527
Folio: 45
Page: 25
Registration District: St Saviour Southwark
Civil Parish: St George the Martyr Southwark
Municipal Borough:
Address: 43, Gun St, St George The Martyr Southwark
County: London, Surrey

Chris :)

Deaths Dec 1890 (>99%)
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Ranger Sabina 72 St. Saviour 1d 45

could someone help me please find henry rangers parents.
henry was born 1872 at southwark in 1881 atage of 9 living with his grand mother surbina ranger at southwark she died in 1890 aged 72. i think her maiden name was manston.
henry married louisa bessie prior in 1892 they had 3 children elizabeth b1894 annie b1897 and elsie b1899
Henry died 1902

regards
peter