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Susan
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14 Oct 2012 15:47 |
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Can't find anything on Fanny after she was a witness at her sister's marriage in 1865. However, on her father's obituary notice in 1872, it stated that he was survived by 8 of his 12 children. Henry William b 1829 d 1832 Frederick Charles Patey b 1830 d 1912 Charles Bethel Carden b 1831 d 1832 Matilda Jane b 1833 d bef. 1841 Henrietta Charlotte b 1835 d 1898 Margaret Frances Susan b1837 d after 1891 Victor Benjamin b 1838 d 1839 Fanny Anne b 1840 d ? Elizabeth Howard b 1841 d 1923 Henry Arthur b 1843 d 1906 Emily Sarah b 1845 d 1924 Matilda Florence b 1848 d 1923
So if 8 children survived him, I believe Fanny Anne must have been one of them. I know Margaret Frances Susan was alive after 1891. If anyone can help me find out when Fanny either married or died, I would appreciate it. Lyndersgreen
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Catherine
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14 Oct 2012 16:13 |
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Maybe?
1881 England Census about Fanny Robinson Name: Fanny Robinson Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Old St Pancras, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Trinity County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: Field Lane Servants Home & Female Refuge Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Laundry Maid Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: St Andrew Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 341 Folio: 66 Page Number: 3
........................just noticed, can't be her as this one is married!
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Catherine
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14 Oct 2012 16:16 |
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just for info:-
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Fanny Anne Robinson Name: Fanny Anne Robinson Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 20 Jul 1840 Father's Name: Henry Charles Robinson Mother's Name: Matilda Eliza Halful Robinson Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Old St Pancras Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Registers
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Catherine
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14 Oct 2012 16:31 |
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There's this one:-
Marriages Jun 1866 (>99%) xxxx Robinson Fanny A Spalding 7a 614 SLY Matilda Spalding 7a 614 xxxx TURNER Charles C Spalding 7a 614 Westmoreland Richard Spalding 7a 614
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Catherine
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14 Oct 2012 16:33 |
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1871 England Census about Fanny A Turner Name: Fanny A Turner Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles C Turner Gender: Female Where born: St Pancras Civil parish: St Pancras County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Pancras Sub-registration district: Kentish Town ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 148 Piece: 236 Folio: 51 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Charles C Turner 43 Fanny A Turner 30 Charles R Turner 3 Fanny R Turner 2 Pattie R Turner 1 Ann C Turner 40 Agnes S Cussen 23
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Catherine
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14 Oct 2012 16:35 |
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1881 England Census about Fanny A. Turner Name: Fanny A. Turner Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles C. Turner Gender: Female Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Mary Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: Grovedale Rd (Sheen House) Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington East ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 257 Folio: 60 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age Charles C. Turner 53 - born: Stepney, Middlesex (retired druggist) Fanny A. Turner 40 Ann C. Turner 50 Charles R. Turner 13 Patty R. Turner 11 Matilda R. Turner 9 Leonard R. Turner 7 Arthur R. Turner Ellen Jones 15
......................the marriage cert. will confirm if this is her, or not.
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Catherine
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14 Oct 2012 16:38 |
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Just in case it is her:-
1891 England Census about Fanny A Turner Name: Fanny A Turner Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles C Turner Gender: Female Where born: St Pancras, London, England Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: (of husband) Retired Druggist
Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Upper Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 145 Folio: 59 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Charles C Turner 63 Fanny A Turner 50 Charles R Turner 23 Pattie R Turner 21 Matilda R Turner 19 Leonard Turner 17 Arthur Turner 10 Ann C Turner 60 Ellen M Bray 17
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Catherine
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14 Oct 2012 16:39 |
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...................same family:-
1901 England Census about Fannie A Turner Name: Fannie A Turner Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles C Turner Gender: Female Where born: St Pancras, London, England Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Upper Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Piece: 163 Folio: 67 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Charles C Turner 73 Fannie A Turner 60 Annie C Turner 70 Pattie R Turner 31 Leonard R Turner 27 Arthur R Turner 20
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Catherine
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14 Oct 2012 16:40 |
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1911 England Census about Fanny Anne Turner Name: Fanny Anne Turner Age in 1911: 70 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: St Pancras Civil parish: Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 1 Grovedale Rd, Upper Holloway, London N Marital Status: Married Years Married: 44 Estimated Marriage Year: 1867 Registration district: Islington Registration District Number: 10 Sub-registration district: Upper Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Piece: 805 Household Members: Name Age Charles Copeland Turner 83 Fanny Anne Turner 70 Arthur Robinson Turner 30 Polly Dent 17
...............7 children, 5 living and 2 died
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Catherine
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14 Oct 2012 16:44 |
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Not same area but only death I can see that fits with date of birth:-
Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%) Turner Fanny A 77 Edmonton 3a 525 The district Edmonton spans the boundaries of the counties of Essex, Hertfordshire and Middlesex .................................................................................................
Deaths Sep 1916 (>99%) Turner Charles C 89 Islington 1b 223
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Charles Copeland Turner Name: Charles Copeland Turner Probate Date: 12 Oct 1916 Death Date: 19 Sep 1916 Death Place: Middlesex, England Registry: London, England Probate to Fanny Anne Turner Effects: £3138 12s 7d
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Susan
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14 Oct 2012 17:40 |
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Thanks for all your help Catherine. I had looked at all the censuses but couldn't find her after 1851. I did take a look at the marriages, but wasn't sure since this was in Spalding, Lincolnshire. However, its possible that she went to work in Lincolnshire, and so got married there. But the interesting thing to me is that her father was a surgeon and apothecary, and it looks like Charles Turner was a druggist, so that may be the connection here. I had wondered if she had followed a three of her sisters and had gone to Russia. Two got married in Russia and one Margaret Frances Susan went out there as well. Henrietta Charlotte married and stayed in Russia. Emily Sarah married in Russia, but came back with her family around the 1890's and her sister Margaret came back too. I need to look into the Charles Turner family more and see if I can find any other connection, so thanks for taking the time to research this for me. Susan
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Susan
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15 Oct 2012 16:42 |
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Hi Catherine, Just thought you might like to know the outcome of Fanny Anne Robinson and Charles Copeland Turner. After your help, I started looking at the censuses to see if there was a link to my gr.gr.grandfather. The fact that Charles was a druggist was a good start. Henry Charles Robinson was a surgeon having trained at Guy's and St. Thomas' hospitals. From there he went to Plymouth under the apprenticeship of Mr. William Patey Baldy, an apothecary for 5 years. In 1829 he was qualified to practise as an apothecary in London. So I am imagining that he may have crossed paths with Charles Copeland Turner at some time professionally. Charles was born around 1828.
Following on from the information you gave me, I found an article in The London Gazette for 24th December 1872, entitled Henry Charles Robinson, Deceased.
This paragraph asks that all persons having any claims or demands upon or against the estate of Henry Charles Robinson, ..... whose will was proved on 17th July 1872 by Henry Arthur Robinson (son) and Charles Copeland Turner, who were the executors. I haven't written out the whole piece, but I think that this shows that his son Henry and son-in-law Charles were the executors.
So I can now add Fanny Anne's married name and family to my tree, which for me has solved another of the family history mysteries which keep cropping up.
Thanks again, Susan
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Catherine
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15 Oct 2012 18:18 |
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A pleasure Susan, glad to have been able to help in your research. To be 100% sure you could always invest in the marriage certificate which should give her father's name and occupation. It's always nice to have feedback, especially when it's positive, so thank you for getting back to let me know. Much appreciated. Good luck with the rest of your research. Regards Catherine :-D
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