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james coates c1832 kidderminster uk

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Judi

Judi Report 13 Oct 2012 11:06

Does anybody have a James COATES whose parents were William COATES and Mary BOUCHER. My James was married in Australia to Mezeler JONES and they had quite a few children, like about 14. The first child was born in Australia in 1857 so he must have immigrated sometime before then.
Would appreciate any information on him as I have struck a brick wall.
Thanking anyone in anticipation.
Judi SA Aussieland

Gee

Gee Report 13 Oct 2012 11:16

Im not sure that this is Coates?


1841 England Census
about James Cook
Name: James Cook
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Male
Where born: Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Kidderminster
Hundred: Kidderminster
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub-registration district: Kidderminster
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1208
Book: 2
Folio: 39
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Edwin Cook 40
Mary Cook 40
Mary Cook 15
William Cook 13
John Cook 11
James Cook 9
Edwin Cook 7
Abraham Cook 5
Thomas Cook 3


No, it is defo Cook, heres the birth of the last child



Births Jun 1838 (>99%)
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COOKE Thomas Kidderminster 18 378


Judi

Judi Report 13 Oct 2012 11:23

Thank you for replying but I don't think that would be my guy as I have his father as William Coates and mother Mary Boucher (Coates).
Thanks again.

Gee

Gee Report 13 Oct 2012 11:27

This is odd??


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about Jas Coates
Name: Jas Coates
Spouse Name: Hezelor Jones
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Number: 2088

Gee

Gee Report 13 Oct 2012 11:29

There is no other info to see on this record


Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
about James Coats
Name: James Coats
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Age: 17
Arrival Date: 8 Dec 1852
Arrival Port: Melbourne and Victoria, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Theodore
Nationality: Scottish

Judi

Judi Report 13 Oct 2012 11:38

Yeah that's them, I do have a copy of the marriage cert. and they got married 1908, when their last child was 27yrs old. He died with chronic bronchitis and had known that for his last 3 yrs alive. His heart finally gave up. Most of his children were registered under JONES but a couple of them changed their maiden names to COATES sometime down the track. The name Hezelor Jones there should read MEZELER.

Judi

Judi Report 13 Oct 2012 11:45

I don't know if the James Coats b 1835 would be mine, his nationality is Scottish and the Coats doesn't have the 'e'. I know names can have a lot of variations but.
This is very kind of you looking all this up for me, you are very kind.

Gee

Gee Report 13 Oct 2012 11:55

Ooops, I missed the nationality!


How do you know he was born in Kidderminster? Do you know what his father did for a living and was there any siblings to James?

Judi

Judi Report 13 Oct 2012 12:35

On his death cert. it says he was born Kidderminster, England and that his father was William and mother Mary (Boucher). His father was a commercial traveller. James was a painter. On his death cert. it says he had lived in Victoria, Australia for 58 yrs so he could have been around 20yrs when he came Aust. except if he had lived in NSW before Victoria. Mezeler was a NSW born so he could have immigrated to Sydney then moved to Victoria after meeting her.
I don't have any siblings for James, this is what I've been hunting down, from James and his parents and before that. Can't seem to get anywhere from here back.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Oct 2012 12:39

groom's name: William Coates
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Maria Boucher
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 08 Feb 1817
marriage place: Saint Leonards ,Shoreditch,London,England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M04080-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 405104, 405105, 405106, 405107, 405108, 405109
reference number:

Judi

Judi Report 13 Oct 2012 12:55

Thanks Reggie, I'm not sure if these are my grandparents or not, I have come across them before but the marriage date is different to what I have 13 Mar 1815.
But I guess it is possible.

Gee

Gee Report 13 Oct 2012 13:01

Bit left field but this looks to a child from the marriage Reggie posted


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about William Henry Coates
Name: William Henry Coates
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 10 May 1818
Father's Name: William Coates <<<<<<<<Traveller
Mother's Name: Maria Coates
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Benet Paul´s Wharf
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Oct 2012 13:16

Judi

That generation can't be your grandparents.............there must be a few 'greats' in there

What is the source of your 'info' about their marriage date? Have you anything to back it up?

Judi

Judi Report 13 Oct 2012 13:30

Sorry Reggie, of course James COATES was my Gx2, William and Maria my Gx3.

Judi

Judi Report 13 Oct 2012 13:52

Reggie, no I don't have anything to back up William and Mary's marriage date, somebody had passed some info onto me, from Genealogy.com. but it just gave me a little something to work on.