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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Oct 2012 09:41

Are you going to answer our questions about how Charlotte fits in your tree?

Absolutely no point in our looking for her unless you tell us ALL you know...............we're simply wasting our time.

I suspect you've latched on to the Charlotte born c1902 for no other reason than that she was said to have been born in Suffolk

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 13 Oct 2012 00:36

Many Thanks, I have lots to go on now,
Thanks for the Dec 1924 marriage "rootgatherer"

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Oct 2012 00:28

Marriages Dec 1924 (>99%)
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Hawes Charlotte Oxborrow Ipswich 4a 2401
Hearsum Frances D Sheppard Ipswich 4a 2401
Oxborrow Marcus A Hawes Ipswich 4a 2401
Sheppard Bernard H Hearsum Ipswich 4a 2401


Name: Charlotte Oxborrow
Birth Date: 15 Dec 1902
Date of Registration: Oct 2003
Age at Death: 100
Registration district: Ipswich
Inferred County: Suffolk
Register Number: B33B
District and Subdistrict: 747/1B
Entry number: 160

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Oct 2012 00:14

???

1901

Name: Doris Honer Hawes
[Doris Honer Howes] <<<Hawes on image
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John F Hawes
Mother's Name: Rosa C Hawes
Gender: Female
Where born: Ipswich

Civil parish: Stoke St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Stoke St Mary
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: Ipswich Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Piece: 1776
Folio: 32
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
John F Hawes 37
Rosa C Hawes 35
John L Hawes 16
Doris Honer Hawes 5



EDIT

Perhaps not that one - was hoping that Rosa's middle name was CCharlotte

Rosa C Hawes
[Rosetta Caroline Warne]

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Oct 2012 00:09

Agree, patchem.

They are siblings of Charlotte 1902 if reading 1st post correctly. However we've still not been told the dates that these people were supposed to be born. Even a guess would do.

Also if Charlotte, William, John & Honor are on a hand drawn tree, surely the parents are on it too. Or has Norfolboy worked back from there?

Too many missing details.

Ozi

patchem

patchem Report 12 Oct 2012 23:50

Marriages Mar 1909
BOTWRIGHT William Hartismere 4a 1079
HAWES Honor Louisa Hartismere 4a 1079
HAWES Louisa Hartismere 4a 1079
TALBOT William Thomas Hartismere 4a 1079

Honor, William and John are meant to be siblings of Charlotte born 1902, but possibly siblings of Charlotte 1878?

Added:
No.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Oct 2012 23:48

Sorry, have I missed something here? Where do William, John and Hono/ur come in?

Ozi

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Oct 2012 23:44

As we have no ages for this family we can't be sure when she was born. There are more Charlotte Hawes registrations before 1900, however this IS the only Hono/ur registered Suffolk (in fact for all England.)

Births Jun 1881 HAWES Honor Louisa Hartismere 4a 667

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Oct 2012 23:42

1891

Name: Charlotte Hawes
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Abraham Hawes
Mother's Name: Jemima Hawes
Gender: Female
Where born: Bungay, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Leiston
Ecclesiastical parish: Dunwich
Town: Leiston
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Blything
Sub-registration district: Westleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1482
Folio: 70
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Hawes 43
Jemima Hawes 40
Charlotte Hawes 13
Georgehamah Hawes 15
James Hawes 9
John Hawes 7
Louisa Hawes 7
Rose Hawes 5
Florence Hawes 3

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 12 Oct 2012 23:41

Their on 1881 census,
Charlotte 1878.
Many thanks !!!!!!!!!!

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Oct 2012 23:40

Are there any ages/birth years for this family?

patchem

patchem Report 12 Oct 2012 23:39

What name is given (invented?) for Father on the marriage certificate?

patchem

patchem Report 12 Oct 2012 23:38

?
1881 England Census
Charlotte Hawes Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Abraham Hawes
Mother's Name: Jemima Hawes
Gender: Female Where born: Bungay, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Holton
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
street Address: Street
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Blything Sub-registration district: Wenhaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Piece: 1894 Folio: 7 Page Number: 8
Abraham Hawes 32
Jemima Hawes 29
Susanna Hawes 12
Lucy Hawes 10
Jemima Hawes 8
Georgianna Hawes 6
Charlotte Hawes 3
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1894; Folio: 7; Page: 8; GSU roll: 1341457.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Oct 2012 23:37

This is the only Charlotte Hawes birth registered in Suffolk

Births Dec 1902 Hawes Charlotte Ipswich 4a 1035


Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 12 Oct 2012 23:37

So if their mother is Charlotte 1878, where does she originate from ??

patchem

patchem Report 12 Oct 2012 23:30

?
Births Dec 1902
Hawes Charlotte Ipswich 4a 1035

Births Mar 1900
Hawes Mabel Beatrice Blything 4a 1079

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 12 Oct 2012 23:30

Is this them??



Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
HALLIDAY, Alexander Head Married M 39 1862 Boot & Shoe Maker
Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW
HALLIDAY, Kathleen E M Daughter F 4 1897
Woodbridge, Suffolk VIEW
HALLIDAY, Esther F H Daughter F 3 1898
Woodbridge, Suffolk VIEW
HALLIDAY, Alexandra H J Daughter F 2 1899
Woodbridge, Suffolk VIEW
HALLIDAY, Alexander J Son M 1 1900
Woodbridge, Suffolk VIEW
HAWES, Charlotte Servant Single F 23 1878 House Keeper (Domestic)
Bungay, Suffolk VIEW
HAWES, Mabel B G Daur Of Servant F 1 1900
Halesworth, Suffolk VIEW Piece: 1781 Folio: 83

patchem

patchem Report 12 Oct 2012 23:27

Charlotte, her Mother, is single in 1911, have you got a birth for her?
Thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Oct 2012 23:27

So how is she supposed to fit into your tree?

Any clues to help us?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Oct 2012 23:26

Registration district covering Leiston = Blything