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Went to join the Civil War in USA in 1861?
Died of wounds received.

That's all we know can anybody help?

Is this him with his parents in the 1841 census:-

1841 census transcription details for: Seymour Place, St Marylebone, Marylebone

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 679
Book/Folio: 6/6
Page: 6
Reg. District: Marylebone
Sub District: St Mary
Parish: St Marylebone
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Marylebone

Address: Seymour Place, St Marylebone, Marylebone
County: Middlesex

Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

SARVENT, George M 30 1811 Middlesex
SARVENT, Frances F 30 1811
SARVENT, George M 4 1837 Middlesex<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
SARVENT, Willm M 1 1840 Middlesex

ROGERS, Robert M 15 1826 Middlesex
DEANE, Mary F 15 1826 Middlesex
HANDFORD, Chs M 35 1806
HANDFORD, Mary F 35 1806
HANDFORD, Mary F 7 1834 Middlesex
HANDFORD, Samuel M 15 1826 Middlesex
HANDFORD, - F 0 (3 months) 1841 Middlesex

Everyone after William Sarvent was in a different household in the same building.

Kath. x

Robert - you must know something else to have arrived at his name. How is he connected in your family?

Not seeing anything in US records at first glance.

Possible baptism:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: George Sarvent
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 6 Dec 1835
Father's Name: George Sarvent - Cabinet maker
Mother's Name: Frances Sarvent
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthew
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Lived Bath Street. Actual birth date 23 October 1835.


Hmm - there is this registration 2 years later:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1837
SARVENT George Bethnal Green 2 22

Perhaps the 1835 George died and the parents called the 1837 child after him.

Kath. x

Quite possible Kath - names were often recycled back then.

Possible ???

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: George Sarvent
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1893
Age at Death: 56
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 299

I had assumed (I know I shouldn't) that he died in the USA.

As for names being recycled - it still happens these days. My husband was named the same as his brother who died as a baby (just 12 hrs. old) the year before hubby was born. They were both named after their grandfather.

Kath. x

Yes, you have got the parents right - I hadn't known about the first George though.

He died of wounds received on the battlefield (the contents of an old letter from Frederick Sarvent written about 1950).

I am also a recycled child my elder brother living one day and I was born a year later.

Did he die in the USA or in England? Could the death that MariieCeleste found be him?

Kath. x

Robert, I'm puzzled by the dates in your posts.

You say George Servant died of wounds following the US Civil war (which was 1860s) but this is from an old letter written 1950?

SARVENT
He apparently died in USA - this is the only clue I have for him - bit of a negative clue.

My mother was in contact with Eric who wrote the letter as he know more about the English side of the family.

Don't really know what you mean by, "I'm puzzled by the dates in your posts." Eric was quite a flamboyant character and went into lots of details how we were expelled from france by being protestents

I think what MarieCeleste was meaning by "I'm puzzled by the dates in your posts" was how could someone writing a letter in the 1950's be certain of something that happened 90 years earlier unless he had documentary proof - like a death certificate.

Kath. x

Do you know which side he fought on?

1851 England Census
County:Middlesex
Parish:MARYLEBONE
Street:DEVONSHIRE STREET
Admin County:MIDDLESEX
City:MARYLEBONE
Division Of County:MIDDLESEX
Ecclesiastical District:CHRIST CHURCH
Parliamentary Borough:MARYLEBONE
Registration District:MARYLEBONE
Sub District:CHRIST CHURCH
Enumeration District:7
Archive Reference:HO107 Piece Number:1490 Folio:361 Page:80

GEORGE LARVENT 1809 42 Bethnal Green HEAD M Cabinet Maker Employ 2 Men
FRANCIS LARVENT 1810 41 Manchester WIFE M
GEORGE LARVENT 1838 13 Bethnal Green SON Scholar
WILLIAM LARVENT 1840 11 Bethnal Green SON Scholar
FRANCES LARVENT 1843 8 Marylebone, Middx DAUGHTER Scholar
JAMES LARVENT 1846 5 Marylebone, Middx SON
WILLIAM BLICK 1802 49 High Wickhouse VISITOR M Carpenter

Deaths Dec 1859 (>99%)
Sarvent Frances Halifax 9a 258

Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
Davies Hannah Halifax 9a 716
Gott Benjamin Halifax 9a 716
Mills Martha Halifax 9a 716
Sarvent George Halifax 9a 716


1861 England Census
County:Yorkshire (West riding)
Parish:HALIFAX
Street:14 EAST OF CLARANCE STREET
Town:HALIFAX
City:HALIFAX
Ecclesiastical District:ST JAMES
Municipal Ward:NORTH WEST
Parliamentary Borough:HALIFAX
Registration District:HALIFAX
Sub District:4 HALIFAX
Archive Reference:RG09 Piece Number:3279 Folio:26 Page:1

GEORGE SARVENT 1811 50 Bethnal Green, Middx HEAD M Preacher United Methodist FreeChurch
MARTHA SARVENT 1821 40 Harrogate, Yorks WIFE M
WILLIAM SARVENT 1840 21 Bethnal Green, Middx SON U Joiner
FRANCES SARVENT 1843 8 Marylebone, Middx DAUGHTER U
JAMES SARVENT 1847 14 Marylebone, Middx SON Scholar

Kath - belated response, but yes that is what I meant by the dates.

Robert - what relation was Eric (Frederick?) the letter writer to George Sarvent who allegedly died in the civil war?

(If you could give us all of your info up front it would help us to help you, e.g. in your opening post you said that was all you knew but you obviously knew who his parents were as you confirmed when I posted the baptism).

Freddrick was a nephew. Thus I would have thought that his father would have kept him right.

I thought you could see my tree? Is there a way I can do this? I am a recent novice on this web site and do not know the inns and outs of it (sorry).

Robert - no, we can't see your tree! The only people who can see it are those that you invite, that's why you need to give as much info as possible when you're posting for help on these boards.

this is the only one in the british army records on find my past

First name(s): George
Last name: SARVENT

Parish of birth: Paddington
Town of birth:
County of birth: Middlesex
Age at discharge: 42 years 8 months
Attestation date: 13 March 1860 age 21
Attestation corps:
Attestation soldier number:
Discharge rank: Sapper
Discharge corps: Royal Engineers
Discharge soldier number: 6329
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 1856 / 56

discharged 18 May 1881
occupation carpenter

character: bad - addicted to drink - intemperate

if this is him, maybe the family made up a story.....

possible death in england
Name: SARVENT, George

Registration district: St. George Hanover Square

County: London

Year of registration: 1893

Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

Age at death:56

Volume no: 1A

Page no: 299

This does sound rather like it. After all his father was a carpenter before he became a Methodist Minister (in fact a carpenter to royality) maybe this is another story they made up. :-)