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I've been looking for this man's birth or census records for many years with no luck. In 1901 ans 1911 he's living in south wales at Briton Ferry, Neath. He got married in 1900 to a Hannah Johnson, and he says his father id Thomas Jones (labouror).

I can not find his birth certificate, the ones that look right have always had the wrong father. i also can't find him on the 71,81,or 91 cenus. It should be easy to find him, am i missing something, help!

John

As far as his birth certificate is concerned. Although civil registration began in 1837 it was not until 1874 that birth registration was made compulsory. Consequently a lot of births went unregistered.

A possible in 1871:
Name: David Jones
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Jones (Occ: Lead miner)
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Talurn Bersha, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil parish: Bersham
Ecclesiastical parish: Minera
Town: Talwrn
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Wrexham
Sub-registration district: Wrexham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 222
Piece: 5655
Folio: 128
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Jones 44 born Ruthin, Denbighshire
Elizabeth Jones 45 born Holywell, Flintshire
John Jones 18
Robert Jones 16
Edward Jones 14
Thomas Jones 12
William Jones 9
Price Jones 7
Sarah A Jones 5
David Jones 2

Same chap in 1891:
Name: David Jones
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Jones
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil parish: Trevethin
Ecclesiastical parish: Pontnewynydd
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Pontypool
Sub-registration district: Pontypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4362
Folio: 38
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Jones 64 born Ruthin, Denbighshire Occ Coal miner
Elizabeth Jones 64 born Holywell, Flintshire
Price Jones 27
David Jones 22
Edith Williams 12
Emily Foxwell 2
John Rogers 32
Martha Rogers 31
William Jones 29

Not sure about this one

Census 1881:

Name: David Thomas Jones
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Cefn Mawr, Denbighshire, Wales

Civil parish: Bersham
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: "Wrexham Union Workhouse"
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Wrexham
Sub-registration district: Ruabon
ED, institution, or vessel: Wrexham Union Workhouse

yes that could be him i wasn't aware that it didnt become law until 1874.

i have found this as well on the IGI, but it doesn't say who the parents are


David Thomas Jones
event: Baptism
event date: 12 Dec 1868
event place: Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales

Again that could be him in the workhouse, i wonder if they have got more records of the workhouse.

HI, I checked the image for the baptism John posted:


Forenames: David Thomas
Surname: Jones
Baptism Year: 1868
Baptism Month: Dec
Baptism Day: 12
Place: Wrexham
County: Denbighshire
Birth Year: -
Birth Month: -
Birth Day: -
Fathers Forenames: -
Mothers Forenames: -
Page: 293
Record source: Denbigh baptisms - Transcripts

and the names of the parents have been left blank. The address is given as Mount St, and father's occupation as Smith.

I don't think he was a smith, he could have been one in 1868, perhaps he was just a lab in the year 1900

Jonesey i think u may have found them. It's the same family, i notice that price jones is on both the 71 and the 91 census. It's a big move from north wales to south, most people from north wales went Liverpool to find work.

thanks u may have got it