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My father married in 1949 he left the ship in Melbourne Australia to marry mum he hadn't finished his time in the navy so he was classified as a deserter. We only know this because upon his death in 1960 mum wrote away for his war medals but this was denied, he had 4 sons and now has 7 grandsons. I know he had 3 ships shot out from underneath him he had war injuries and shrapnel still in his body. He was married under the name a w Sanford but the letter we received back from the defence dept had the name a w lathwell I don't know how to go about finding out,his naval history during his lifetime, I would love to know about,his life to pass on to my sons, I remember a picture with a girl holding a baby I think it was his sister I may have living relatives over there which would be good hoping somebody can help me
Helen

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Albert William Sanford
Death Place: Preston, Victoria
Age: 35
Registration Year: 1960
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 8952
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1925

Chris :)

(where was he born?)

I wonder if this is him .

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Albert Lathwell Name: Albert Lathwell
Mother's Maiden Surname: Gaylor
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1926
Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 494

(PM from Helen)

Yes that's dads death certificate I always remember Porthsmouth being mentioned but why we have2 names unless his mother Harriet Rosia married again sometime thank you Helen


(so presume below Marriage)

Marriages Sep 1916 (>99%)
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Lathwell Albert Rosier Portsmouth 2b 1082
Rosier Harriet Lathwell Portsmouth 2b 1082

Chris :)

Birth maybe

Births Dec 1922 (>99%)
Lathwell Albert W C Rosier Portsmouth 2b 678

Name: LATHWELL, Harriet
Registration district: [?] Portsmouth
County: Hampshire
Year of registration: 1952
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death:66
Volume no: 6B
Page no: 404

Chris :)

(have sent message to Helen, and asked if she can reply on 'Thread')

?
1911
ROBERTS, Thomas Head Married M 48 1863 Fishmonger Abergavenny Mon
ROBERTS, Annie Wife Married20 years F 48 1863 Assisting In The Business Haverfordwest Pim
xxx ROSIER, Harriet Servant Single F 23 1888 General Servant Domestic Lambourn Berks
RG number: RG14 Piece: 5552 Reference: RG14PN5552 RG78PN252 RD90 SD2 ED31 SN12
Registration District: Portsmouth Sub District: Kingston and East Southsea Enumeration District: 31
Parish: Portsmouth Address: 104 Albert Road Southsea Hampshire
County: Hampshire

?
Births Jun 1920
Lathwell Patricia M Rosier Portsmouth 2b 948
Births Jun 1921
Lathwell Winifred M Rosier Portsmouth 2b 801
Births Dec 1922
Lathwell Albert W C Rosier Portsmouth 2b 678

Deaths Jun 1920
LATHWELL Patricia M 0 Portsmouth 2b 524

?
Marriages Jun 1939
Denham Ernest P Lathwell Portsmouth 2b 1646
Lathwell Winifred M Derham Portsmouth 2b 1646

The 3 children are in someone's tree on here as is Harriet with a slightly different birth year (fits Chris's death, but my birthplace in 1911)

Name Lathwell, Albert
Official Number: 232476
Place of Birth: Ramsgate, Kent
Date: 28 September 1888
(above Navy Record can be downloaded, £3.36)


Name: LATHWELL, Albert
Vessel : Affaric
Country: At sea
Year: 1938-1939
Page: 45
Age at death: 48
Record source: GRO Marine Death Indices (1903 to 1965)

Name:LATHWELL, Albert
Date of death:18 November 1937
Age:48
Place of death:St Heliers Jersey (Royal Hospital)
Place of birth:Ramsgate
Belonging to service:
Ship's name:Affaric
Series:BT334 - Registers and Indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea
Box:0093
Page:102

(image says injuries received from being struck by ? handle, last place of abode given as, 42, Adames Road, Portsmouth)

Chris :)

(just adding above Records above, in case it could be Father Albert!)...

Chris, I have sent away to UK for birth certificate for aw Lathwell 1922 Portsmouth hoping fathers details are there it really is hard.
Patches seems to have found mother Harriet rosier not sure how to decider the information he posted. Your info do you think could be dads father?

this could be Albert Lathwell's birth and 1901 Census

1901

Albert Lathwell
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Ramsgate, Kent, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cyprian
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: House Boy Brigade


He was in Ramsgate aged 3 1891 but he was born Southwark -London
if he was brought up in Ramsgate Kent he most likely thought he was born there

Baptism in Southwark

Albert Lathwell 19 th Feb 1888 to Emily Lathwell - Southwark

Mavis

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Albert Lathwell
Birth Date: abt 1888
Age: 42
Port of departure: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Arrival Date: 21 Jun 1930
Port of arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Santos
[Rio de Janeiro]
Ship Name: Alcantara
Search Ship Database: View the 'Alcantara'
Shipping Line: The Royal Mail Steam Packet Company
Official Number: 148151

(going to same address, as Death above)


UK, Naval Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1972
Name: Albert Lathwell
Medal or Award: Star, Victory Medal, British War Medal
Service Year: 1914-1920
Service Location: Europe
Campaign or Service: World War I
Service number: 232476


(below is 1891 FMP)

LATHWELL, Albert Boarder M 3 1888
Forest Hill, London
Piece: 732
Folio: 46
Page: 5
Registration District: Thanet
Civil Parish: St Lawrence
Municipal Borough: Ramsgate
Address: 3, Childrens House (or Home?), Albion Terrace, St Lawrence, Ramsgate
County: Kent


Hopefully Helen the Birth Cert. will match, fingers crossed, do you have the 1916 Marriage Cert.?...

Chris :)

its not Albert Lathwell 1888 B cert she is getting -- its the one for Albert W C Lathwell 1922 Portsmouth

Albert 1888 may be his father

Mavis

Death for Winifred Lathwell:
Winifred May Denham
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1921
Date of Registration: Dec 1988
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 981

These look like her children, and 2 of them are in the same person's tree on here.
Births 1940
DENHAM Patricia M Lathwell Portsmouth
Births 1946
Denham Ernest A Lathwell Portsmouth
Births 1949
Denham Molly P Lathwell Portsmouth

Ernest looks to have been on 192.com electoral rolls for 2002-2003, you could look for an address in bt online for Portsmouth.

It is highly likely that Patricia's daughter and/or grandchildren are members of genes.

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