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Info on Welsh forebears

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Alison

Alison Report 10 Oct 2012 02:49

I am seeking any information I can get re my great-great-grandparents John Owen(s) and Prudence Roberts.
John was born in Llanasa Flintshire Wales in abt.1783.
Prudence in abt 1784
I understand that they had 6 children the last of whom was my great-grandfather,David in 1852.
David arrived in Australia in 1869 and I have heaps of family info from then on.It is getting info re John's parents ,grandparents etc. that I'm hitting a brick wall with!
Thanks in advance,
Alison./.

jax

jax Report 10 Oct 2012 03:20

Would'nt they be a bit old to have a child in 1852?

jax

jax Report 10 Oct 2012 03:24

Is this them?

1851 Wales Census
about Prudence Owen
Name: Prudence Owen
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Owen
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanasa
Civil Parish or Township: Llanasa
Ecclesiastical parish: St Asaph
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Holywell
Sub-registration district: Whitford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Piece: 2500
Folio: 65
Page Number: 40
Household schedule number: 151
Household Members: Name Age
John Owen 50
Prudence Owen 48
Elizabeth Owen 23
Thomas Owen 16
John Owen 11
Moses Owen 8
Peter Owen 5
David Owen 3
Thomas Roberts 37
Ellin Jones 27
Martha Jones 7 Mo


jax

jax Report 10 Oct 2012 03:30

Same family

1861 Wales Census
about Prudance Owens
Name: Prudance Owens
Age: 77
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1784
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Owens
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanasa, Flintshire, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Gronnant
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Holywell
Sub-registration district: Whitford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 126
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4266
Folio: 58
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
John Owens 78
Prudance Owens 77
John Owens 21
Moses Owens 18
Peter Owens 15
David Owens 12
Fanny Jones 8
Jane Jones 19

Why their ages have been recorded so high??

jax

jax Report 10 Oct 2012 03:39

This looks like them in 1841

1841 Wales Census
about Prudence Owens
Name: Prudence Owens
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Gender: Female
Where born: Flintshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llansa
Hundred: Prestatyn
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Holywell
Sub-registration district: Whitford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1411
Book: 6
Folio: 6
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Name
Prudence Owens 37
Ellen Owens 16
Ellizth Owens 14
Dinah Owens 12
Miriam Owens 8
Thomas Owens 6
Martha Owens 4
John Owens 1


So they had at least 10 children

jax

jax Report 10 Oct 2012 03:57

Marriage

Grooms Last Name:Owens
Grooms First Name:John
Grooms Fathers First Name:
Grooms Fathers Last Name:
Grooms Parish:Llanasa
Grooms Age:
Brides Last Name:Roberts
Brides First Name:Prudence
Brides Fathers First Name:
Brides Fathers Last Name:
Brides Parish:Llanasa
Brides Age:
County:Flintshire
Place / Parish:Llanasa
Marriage Year:1822
Marriage Month:Jun
Marriage Day:29
Banns Year:
Banns Month:
Banns Day:
Page:32
Record source:Flint marriages - Transcripts

jax

jax Report 10 Oct 2012 04:02

??

Forenames:Prudence
Surname:Roberts
Baptism Year:1803
Baptism Month:Feb
Baptism Day:05
Place:Llanasa
County:Flintshire
Birth Year:-
Birth Month:-
Birth Day:-
Fathers Forenames:John
Mothers Forenames:Catherine
Page:22
Record source:Flint baptisms - Transcripts

or

Forenames:Prudence
Surname:Roberts
Baptism Year:1802
Baptism Month:Oct
Baptism Day:03
Place:Llanasa
County:Flintshire
Birth Year:-
Birth Month:-
Birth Day:-
Fathers Forenames:Thomas
Mothers Forenames:Ellen
Page:21
Record source:Flint baptisms - Transcripts
Data provider:Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

jax

jax Report 10 Oct 2012 04:12

Now wondering if this could be Prudence's parents...with brother Thomas that is listed in 1851

1841 Wales Census
about Thomas Roberts
Name: Thomas Roberts
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Gender: Male
Where born: Flintshire, Wales

Civil parish: Rhuddlan
Hundred: Rhuddlan
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Asaph
Sub-registration district: St Asaph
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1412
Book: 27
Folio: 5
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Name
Peter Roberts 50
Elizabeth Roberts 50
Thomas Roberts 27
Henry Roberts 24
Joseph Roberts 22
John Roberts 20
Charles Roberts 14
Sarah Roberts 12