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7 Oct 2012 18:47 |
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Annaple is Hannibal - I admit my head is a little mushed here! Not sure what to say really.
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Sue In Yorkshire.
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7 Oct 2012 14:33 |
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The enumerator has wrote Hannah's name wrong on the image,he has put Annable but it says son,so goodness knows what was in his mind when he was doing the census.
1861 census transcription details for: Church Street, Guisborough
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 3655 Folio: 43 Page: 33 Reg. District: Guisbrough Sub District: 4 Guisbrough Parish: Guisborough Enum. District: 2 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Church Street, Guisborough County: Yorkshire (North riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STEPHENSON, James Head Married M 30 1831 Turner York STEPHENSON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 27 1834 Stokesley, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, Christiana Daughter Unmarried F 9 1852 Scholar South Stockton, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, Zachariah Son Unmarried M 6 1855 Scholar Stokesley, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, Annaple Son Unmarried M 3 1858 Scholar South Stockton, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 1 1860 Gainsborough, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, Margaret Sister In Law Unmarried F 13 1848 Servant South Stockton, Yorkshire
Hope this is the right one... as you can see there is a Zachariah born 1855 on the 1861 census for this family.. And whoever gave you the information that Zachariah 1855 married Hannah 1858 was or must have given you the wrong info.
Sue
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7 Oct 2012 11:41 |
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James and Mary Stephenson (James born 1830 in York, Yorkshire).
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Sue In Yorkshire.
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7 Oct 2012 00:59 |
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Who were Hannah's parents.
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Sue In Yorkshire.
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7 Oct 2012 00:52 |
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Hannibal..1911
1911 census transcription details for: Walker's Buildings South Wingate Wingate Court
National Archive Reference: RG14PN29995 RG78PN1734 RD552 SD1 ED3 SN212 Reg. District: Easington Sub District: Wingate Parish: Hutton Henry Enum. District: 3 Address: Walker's Buildings South Wingate Wingate Court County: Durham
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
STEPHENSON, Hannibal Head Married M 54 1857 Fish And Crockery Waste Hawker Hockton Durham STEPHENSON, Mary Ann Wife Married 29 years F 47 1864 Leeds Yorks STEPHENSON, Margaret Daughter Single F 27 1884 Guisboro Yorks STEPHENSON, Richard Son Single M 21 1890 Assists In Business Catrick Yorks STEPHENSON, Benjamin Son Single M 19 1892 Assists In Business West Hartlepool Durham STEPHENSON, Christina Daughter Single F 14 1897 Assists In Business Guisboro Yorks STEPHENSON, Zacharia Son Single M 12 1899 School Guisboro Yorks STEPHENSON, Edward Son Single M 10 1901 Guisboro Yorks STEPHENSON, Catherine Daughter Single F 9 1902 Hartlepool Durham STEPHENSON, Hannibal Son Son M 6 1905 South Wingate Durham STEPHENSON, Samuel Son Son M 3 1908 South Wingate Durham
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Peter
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7 Oct 2012 00:24 |
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Right! I think I know the problem.
I think I have added the same couple to my tree twice. You see, Zachariah Stephenson (born 1855) married Jane Stephenson (born 1868).
Basically, to resolve this, can I see the 1861 Census for Hannibal Stephenson (born 1858 in South Stockton/Thornaby, Yorkshire to James Stephenson and Mary).
Then I'll explain where I think the mistake came in.
Peter
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7 Oct 2012 00:22 |
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Hi Sue,
Thank you for the 1901 of Hannibal Stephenson (another relation) ... can you post him in 1911?!
I wonder now if the info I received regarding Hannah Stephenson is incorrect and I need to see the origional 1901 again. I am sorry to say I didn't document my source here.
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Sue In Yorkshire.
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7 Oct 2012 00:07 |
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There are 2 Zachariah's on the 1901 census.as you can see from the parents names this one isn't your Zachariah...
1901 census transcription details for: 2, Van, Patten Lane, Guisbrough
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 4571 Folio: 70 Page: 40 Reg. District: Guisbrough Sub District: Guisbrough Parish: Guisbrough Enum. District: 3 Ecclesiastical District: Guisbrough City/Municipal Borough: Address: 2, Van, Patten Lane, Guisbrough County: Yorkshire (North riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born >>>STEPHENSON, Hannibal Head Married M 43 1858 Travelling Hawker Thornaby, Yorkshire >>>STEPHENSON, Mary A Wife Married F 36 1865 Boston, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, Margaret Daughter Single F 18 1883 Guisborough, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, James Son Single M 16 1885 Hawker Guisborough, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, Richard Son Single M 11 1890 Cattrick, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, Benjamin Son Single M 9 1892 West Hartlepool, Durham STEPHENSON, Christina Daughter Single F 5 1896 Guisborough, Yorkshire >>>STEPHENSON, Zachariah Son Single M 3 1898 Guisborough, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, Catherine Daughter Single F 1 1900 East Hartlepool, Durham
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1901 census transcription details for: 10, North Road, Lofthouse, Loftus
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 4564 Folio: 42 Page: 2 Reg. District: Guisbrough Sub District: Lofthouse Parish: Lofthouse Enum. District: 3 Ecclesiastical District: Loftus St Leonard's City/Municipal Borough: Address: 10, North Road, Lofthouse, Loftus County: Yorkshire (North riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
>>STEPHENSON, Zachariah Head Married M 40 1861 Glass & China Dealer Stokesley, Yorkshire >>STEPHENSON, Jane Wife Married F 33 1868 Guisbrough, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 13 1888 Scholar Loftus, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, Sarah Daughter F 6 1895 Scholar Loftus, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, Mary A Daughter F 4 1897 Scholar Loftus, Yorkshire STEPHENSON, James A Son M 3 1898 Loftus, Yorkshire S>>TEPHENSON, Zachariah Son M 0 (6 MOS) 1901 Loftus, Yorkshire
1911 there is only the one I have already put on for you..with JANE as the mother and Zachariah as the father.
I think you need to send for the birth cert of Zachariah born 1900 to see who his mother is....
Also there is a big difference in ages between Zachariah born 1859 and Jane who is born 1867/8
That is a difernce of at least 6/7 yrs.
Sue
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Peter
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6 Oct 2012 23:38 |
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Thank you Sue! Very kind indeed of you and much appreciated. I too struggled to find the marriage of Zachariah and Hannah ... I suppose I assumed they didn't marry but lived together. Anyway, the following birth seems to be their son (from the info I have):
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Stephenson Zachariah Guisbro' 9d 451
Maybe a search for him in 1911 might yeild some clues?
Thank you so much again.
Peter
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Sue In Yorkshire.
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6 Oct 2012 23:17 |
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Peter.I have looked at all the Hannah Stephenson's born 1868 + and - 2 yrs and there is nothing for her with husband Zachariah born 1855.
I have also looked for a marriage betwen Zachariah Stephenson and a Hannah and nothing is coming to hit me in the face.
Even the birth year for Zachariah is 1859 not 1855..
as you can see below what years I have looked for a birth for Zachariah Stephenson..
Type: Births Surname: stephenson First name(s): zachariah Start date: Mar 1850 End date: Dec 1940 District: all County: all Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1859 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>STEPHENSON Zachariah Stokesley 9d 422
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1875 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STEPHENSON Zachariah Guisbro' 9d 527
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1883 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STEPHENSON Zachariah Whitby 9d 471
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1890 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephenson Zachariah Guisbro' 9d 475
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1892 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephenson Zachariah Stokesley 9d 610
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1898 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephenson Zachariah Guisbro' 9d 544
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephenson Zachariah Guisbro' 9d 451
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephenson Zachariah S. Shields 10a 654 Stephenson Zachariah S. Shields 10a 854
Sorry Peter that is the only birth I can get for Zachariah. So whoever did the transribing for the 1901 census you have got has estimated the year wrong.the above 1911 census is the only Zachariah Stephenson that is on FMP. and even the year it says is 1861 not either 1855 or 1859..
Sue
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6 Oct 2012 21:42 |
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Hi Sue,
Sorry I posted the wrong census there - here is the family group sheet from my tree programme:
Zachariah Stephenson and Hannah ? Husband Zachariah Stephenson Born CAL 1855 Stokesley, Yorkshire Married Other Spouse(s) Died Parents James Stephenson and Mary Swales Wife Hannah ? Born CAL 1868 Guisborough, Yorkshire Other Spouse(s) Died Parents Children 1 F Elizabeth Stephenson Born CAL 1888 Loftus, Yorkshire Spouse Married Died 2 F Sarah Stephenson Born CAL 1895 Loftus, Yorkshire Spouse Married Died 3 F Mary A Stephenson Born CAL 1897 Loftus, Yorkshire Spouse Married Died 4 M James A Stephenson Born CAL 1898 Loftus, Yorkshire Spouse Married Died 5 M Zachariah Stephenson Born CAL Nov 1900 Loftus, Yorkshire Spouse Married Died This all I have for the family. Hannah must have come from the 1901 census.
Peter
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Sue In Yorkshire.
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6 Oct 2012 21:33 |
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Peter,,can you tell me where the HANNAH supposed wife of Zachariah came into it..????
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6 Oct 2012 21:31 |
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Jane Stephenson b 1868....
1911 census transcription details for: 10 North Road Loftus
National Archive Reference: RG14PN29153 RG78PN1689 RD534 SD1 ED2 SN8 Reg. District: Guisborough Sub District: Loftus Parish: Loftus Enum. District: 2 Address: 10 North Road Loftus County: Yorkshire (North riding)
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
STEPHENSON, Zachariah Head Married M 50 1861 Glass And China Merchant Stokesley Yorks STEPHENSON, Jane Wife Married 25 years F 44 1867 Assisting In The Business Guisboro Yorks DALE, Elizabeth Daughter Married F 23 1888 Loftus Yorks DALE, George Son In Law Married M 22 1889 Butcher Skelton Yorks STEPHENSON, Sarah Daughter Single F 16 1895 Loftus Yorks STEPHENSON, Mary Ann Daughter F 14 1897 Just Left School Loftus Yorks STEPHENSON, James Albert Son M 13 1898 School Loftus Yorks STEPHENSON, Zachariah Son M 10 1901 School Loftus Yorks STEPHENSON, Hannah Daughter F 7 1904 School Loftus Yorks STEPHENSON, John Son M 5 1906 School Loftus Yorks STEPHENSON, Flora Mabel Daughter F 2 1909 Loftus Yorks
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6 Oct 2012 21:25 |
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Hi and thank you for that. This is the family in 1901:
1901 England Census Name: Zachariah Stephenson Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Stokesley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Loftus Ecclesiastical parish: Loftus St Leonard Town: Loftus County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 10 North Road Occupation: Glass & China dealer Condition as to marriage: married Registration district: Guisborough Sub registration district: Loftus ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household Members:
Name Age Zachariah Stephenson 45 Jane Stephenson 33 - Guisborough Elizabeth Stephenson 13 Sarah Stephenson 6 Mary A Stephenson 4 James A Stephenson 3 Zachariah Stephenson 6 months All children born Loftus.
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Sue In Yorkshire.
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6 Oct 2012 21:10 |
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David and Marhta were married 14 yrs on the 1911,married 1897..
Sue
Peter have you got the right year of birth for Zachariah Stephenson husband of Hannah as I can't find them on the 1911..
what year was hannah born please.
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Peter
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6 Oct 2012 20:59 |
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Thank you - this is really kind!
Can I ask how long David Stephenson and martha had been married?!
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6 Oct 2012 20:31 |
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David
1911 England Census Name: David Stephenson Age in 1911: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Stillington, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Easingwold County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding Country: England Street Address: Easingwold Yorks Marital Status: Married Occupation: Second Hawker [image is actually Licensed Hawker] Registration district: Easingwold Registration District Number: 529 Sub-registration district: Easingwold Piece: 29017 Household Members: Name Age David Stephenson 60 Martha Stephenson 62 - Licensed Hawker; Thirsk, Yorkshire, England Christopher Smith 18 - Boarder
Children born - none
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6 Oct 2012 20:27 |
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Jane Stephenson,,,
1911 census transcription details for: 10 North Road Loftus
National Archive Reference: RG14PN29153 RG78PN1689 RD534 SD1 ED2 SN8 Reg. District: Guisborough Sub District: Loftus Parish: Loftus Enum. District: 2 Address: 10 North Road Loftus County: Yorkshire (North riding)
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
STEPHENSON, Zachariah Head Married M 50 1861 Glass And China Merchant Stokesley Yorks STEPHENSON, Jane Wife Married 25 years F 44 1867 Assisting In The Business Guisboro Yorks DALE, Elizabeth Daughter Married F 23 1888 Loftus Yorks DALE, George Son In Law Married M 22 1889 Butcher Skelton Yorks STEPHENSON, Sarah Daughter Single F 16 1895 Loftus Yorks STEPHENSON, Mary Ann Daughter F 14 1897 Just Left School Loftus Yorks STEPHENSON, James Albert Son M 13 1898 School Loftus Yorks STEPHENSON, Zachariah Son M 10 1901 School Loftus Yorks STEPHENSON, Hannah Daughter F 7 1904 School Loftus Yorks STEPHENSON, John Son M 5 1906 School Loftus Yorks STEPHENSON, Flora Mabel Daughter F 2 1909 Loftus Yorks
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6 Oct 2012 20:22 |
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1st John Stephenson born 1857
1911 census transcription details for: Long Street Easingwold
National Archive Reference: RG14PN29017 RG78PN1675 RD529 SD2 ED4 SN122 Reg. District: Easingwold Sub District: Easingwold Parish: Easingwold Enum. District: 4 Address: Long Street Easingwold County: Yorkshire (North riding)
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
STEPHENSON, John Head Married M 54 1857 Licened Hawker Yorks Pickering STEPHENSON, Margret Wife Married 29 years F 48 1863 Licened Hawker Yorks Guisbro STEPHENSON, Harry Son Single M 19 1892 General Dealer Yorks Stoksly STEPHENSON, David Son Single M 14 1897 School Yorks Easingwold STEPHENSON, John Son Single M 12 1899 School Yorks Easingwold STEPHENSON, Isabella Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Yorks Easingwold ALLUM, Charles Son-In Law Married M 23 1888 Labourer General Dennington Suffolk ALLUM, Lavina Daughter Married F 22 1889 Easingwold Yorks
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6 Oct 2012 19:51 |
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Hi there,
Looking for these couples in the 1911 census:
John Stephenson born 1857 in Pickering, Yorkshire and his wife Margaret, born 1864 in Guisborough, Yorkshire, married in 1882
Jane Stephenson, born 1868 in Guisborough, Yorkshire, wife of Zachariah Stephenson (born 1860 in Stokesley, Yorkshire). Married in 1885
Another Zachariah Stephenson, born 1855 in Guisborough, Yorkshire; husband of Hannah and father of James (b 1898) and Zachariah (1899)
David Stephenson, born 1852, Stillington, Yorkshire
Thanks,
Peter
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