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Emma Murch 1848

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JEC

JEC Report 8 Oct 2012 14:45

As usual you have come up trumps.
I'd seen the 1861 census and wondered if this was my Emma, born @ Buchfastleigh. I now note that brother Henry/Harry fits in, datewise, so maybe I can add to my refs.?
Thanks for Edwin's death details, his age appears to tally with the 1851 &61 census.
I agree that we're looking at William Richard Batten. William's father was Richard.
Jessie's baptism also fits the dates.

Many thanks.
JEC

patchem

patchem Report 6 Oct 2012 17:59

Yes to William Richard.
Also, yes to buying the marriage certificate.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 6 Oct 2012 17:47

Baptism of William & Emma's daughter Jessie?

Name: Jessie Batten
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Apr 1873
Birth: 12 Apr 1873
Father's Name: William Richard Batten occ Carpenter
Mother's Name: Emma Ann Batten
Parish or Poor Law Union: Notting Hill All Saints
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers
address: 10 Elgin Mews

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 6 Oct 2012 17:40

I just wonder whether William's middle name is Richard and that the 1871 & 1881 census you have given, Patchem, are correct.....what do you think?

patchem

patchem Report 6 Oct 2012 17:22

Is her husband William or Richard?
1871 England Census
Emma Batton [Emma Batten] Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard Batton
Gender: Female Where born: Devon, England
Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Household schedule number: 400 Piece: 46
Folio: 37 Page Number: 68
Richard Batton 24
Emma Batton 23
Bessie Batton 3
William H Batton 1
Alice H Batton 18
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 46; Folio: 37; Page: 68; GSU roll: 824568.

Added:
OK
Marriages Jun 1866
BATTEN William R Plymouth 5b 513
Murch Emma A Plymouth 5b 513

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 6 Oct 2012 17:17

Death of Edwin?

Deaths Jun 1868
MURCH Edwin Dyer aged 42 Plymouth 5b 170

patchem

patchem Report 6 Oct 2012 17:13

If she is definitely born Plymouth, as in 1881 census, could she have been Emily?
Births Dec 1847
MURCH Emily Plymouth 9 357

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 6 Oct 2012 17:07

If above are correct possible marriage for Edwin & Susan?

Marriages Dec 1847
ABBOTT John Totnes 9 651
BUNCLARK William Totnes 9 651
Callard Anne totnes 9 651
CHURCHWARD Mary Totnes 9 651
Elliott John Totnes 9 651
HARRIS Alice Totnes 9 651
>>>LOCK Susan Totnes 9 651
>>>MURCH Edwin Dyer Totnes 9 651

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 6 Oct 2012 17:04

AND then 1851 census?

Name: Emana A Murch
[Emma A Murch]
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edwin Murch
Mother's Name: Susan Murch
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Buckfastleigh, Devon, England

Civil parish: Buckfastleigh
Town: Buckfastleigh
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Totnes
Sub-registration district: Totnes
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Piece: 1874
Folio: 287
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Murch 26 occ Carpenter
Susan Murch 22
Emana A Murch 2
John E Murch 1 Mo

All family born Buckfastleigh

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 6 Oct 2012 17:03

If above birth is correct possible for 1861 census?

Name: Emma A Murch
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edwin Murch
Mother's Name: Susan Murch
Gender: Female
Where born: Buckfastleigh, Devon, England

Civil parish: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub-registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 253
Piece: 1447
Folio: 92
Page Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Murch 35 occ Carpenter
Susan Murch 39
Emma A Murch 12
Rosa Murch 4
Henry J Murch 7 b East Stonehouse
Jessie Murch 1 b East Stonehouse
Thos Scory 21 Lodger

Rest of Family born Buckfastleigh

Vera

Vera Report 6 Oct 2012 17:01

Looks like I have got the wrong one.....but thought I would show it to JEC. Will delete

Regards Vera

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 6 Oct 2012 16:59

I note that on her marriage to William she is Emma A Murch perhaps following is birth?

Births Jun 1848
Murch Emma Anne Totnes 9 519

patchem

patchem Report 6 Oct 2012 16:59

Brother Harry, plus another sibling, in 1871?
H Murch
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Pupil
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England
Civil parish: Tottenham Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Household schedule number: 159 Piece: 1340
Folio: 140 Page Number: 36
...
W Murch 12
H Murch 18
....

patchem

patchem Report 6 Oct 2012 16:52

Could you confirm her birth year as 1848?
Thanks

Added:
This one, for ref?:
1881 England Census
Emma Batten Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Willm. Batten
Gender: Female Where born: Plymouth
Civil parish: Kensington County/Island: London Country: England
Street Address: 4 Bolton Mews
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 40b Piece: 36 Folio: 77 Page Number: 30
Willm. Batten 33
Emma Batten 33
Bessie Batten 13
William Batten 11
Jessie Batten 10
Fredk. Batten 6
Helena Batten 4
Harry Murch 27
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 36; Folio: 77; Page: 30; GSU roll: 1341008.

JEC

JEC Report 6 Oct 2012 16:41

I have found several Emma Murch, in Devon, in various searches and am trying to identify which one is my ancestor. It seems safe to assume that she married William Batten in 1866 at Plymouth, as I have a line from him. I cannot find her in any census previous to her marriage so am unable to identify her parents.

Can anyone please throw any light on Emmna and her family? Yes, I know I can get her marriage cert. but am trying to keep down the expenses. (Scrooge).

Thanks JEC