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Rosamond
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5 Oct 2012 16:39 |
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Violet Carew Lester is my maternal grandmother born 27th November 1887 in Hougham, Kent. It is believed she went abroad around 1920, possibly Europe, and no family members know what happened after that. How can I find whether she died abroad without even knowing which country it may be?
Violet's birth certificate gives her parents as Henry Carew Lester (Solicitors Clerk) and Helen Lester (formerly Pamphilon). However I cannot trace Henry Carew Lester at all or a marriage certificate. I have the death certificate of Helen using the surname Pamphilon, along with census evidence that she lived with her aunt not her husband if he actually existed at all!
Detective work shows Helen was illegitimate and my mother (Violet's daughter) was illegitimate too so my maternal family roots are extremely difficult to trace. This family are one of the Essex Pamphilon families recorded in the publication by Michael Coyne.
Any information would be gratefully received
Thank you Ros :-|
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ErikaH
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5 Oct 2012 16:42 |
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If she went to Europe, there will not be any travel records
There is nothing for her on FMP's migration records
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5 Oct 2012 16:46 |
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1911 England Census
Name: Violet Carew Leslie Age in 1911: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation to Head: Niece Gender: Female Birth Place: Dover, Kent Civil parish: Saffron Walden County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: 5 Sarahs Place, Castle St, Saffron Walden Marital Status: Single Occupation: House Keeper Registration district: Saffron Walden Registration District Number: 203 Sub-registration district: Saffron Walden ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 118 Piece: 10480 Household Members: Name Age Emma Pamphilon 59 Violet Carew Leslie 23
When was her child born?
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ErikaH
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5 Oct 2012 16:49 |
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There is no record of any kind on freebmd for Henry Carew Lester
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Oct 2012 17:23 |
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seems she lived with the aunts
1901 census transcription details for: 13, Museum Street, Saffron Walden
Print Close National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 1735 Folio: 47 Page: 7 Reg. District: Saffron Walden Sub District: Saffron Walden Parish: Saffron Walden Enum. District: 8 Ecclesiastical District: Saffron Walden St Mary City/Municipal Borough: Address: 13, Museum Street, Saffron Walden County: Essex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born PAMPHILON, Helen Head Single F 33 1868 Dressmaker Saffron Walden, Essex PAMPHILON, Emma Sister Single F 47 1854 Dressmaker Deaf Saffron Walden, Essex LESTER, Violet Niece Single F 13 1888 Dover, Kent
If Helen was her mum she is listing her as her niece
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Oct 2012 17:25 |
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1891 census transcription details for: Castle Street, Saffron Walden, Strethall
Print Close National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 1432 Folio: 94 Page: 31 Reg. District: Saffron Walden Sub District: Saffron Waldon Parish: Saffron Walden Enum. District: 6 Ecclesiastical District: St Mary City/Municipal Borough: Saffron Walden Address: Castle Street, Saffron Walden, Strethall County: Essex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born PAMPHILON, Emma Head Single F 39 1852 Dressmaker South Walden, Essex PAMPHILON, Helen Niece Single F 27 1864 Dressmaker South Walden, Essex PAMPHILON, Annie Niece F 16 1875 Nurse Domestic Servant South Walden, Essex LESTER, Violet C Visitor F 3 1888 Dover, Kent
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Oct 2012 17:28 |
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Helen is still in Saffron Walden in 1881
1881 census transcription details for: (Gatwards Passage), Saffron-Walden
Print Close National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 1818 Folio: 66 Page: 31 Reg. District: Saffron Walden Sub District: Saffron-Walden Parish: Saffron-Walden Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: (Gatwards Passage), Saffron-Walden County: Essex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born PAMPHILON, Mary Head Widow F 68 1813 Supported By Granddaughter & Parish Allowance Deaf Saf Walden, Essex PAMPHILON, Emma Daughter Single F 29 1852 Dressmaker Deaf Saf Walden, Essex PAMPHILON, Helen Grand Daughter Single F 17 1864 Dressmaker Saf Walden, Essex
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5 Oct 2012 17:39 |
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There is this on Familysearch
spouse: Helen Lester child: Violet Carew Lester name: Violet Carew Lester gender: Female baptism/christening date: 15 Jan 1888 baptism/christening place: Hougham, Kent, England father's name: Henry Carew Lester mother's name: Helen Lester indexing project (batch) number: I00356-4 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1836242
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Rosamond
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6 Oct 2012 14:14 |
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Thank you to all those who sent answers to my questions.
It would seem I have no way of finding out anything about Violet Carew Lester after she left the country.
My research has been fairly extensive and I do have copies of all census records and BMD certificates relevant to the family and the various connections to my mother, back to John and Mary Pamphilon who are Violet's great-grandparents.
Detective work has also led to the discovery of my mother's father (remember I said she was also illegitimate) or at least I'm 99% certain I have the right man - just cannot prove it!
It would seem Henry Carew Lester will remain a mystery too - very frustrating!
Many thanks for your efforts.
Ros :-)
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