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Good afternoon
I am looking for the marriage of the above to Rose Moreton Kalthoeber. He was born in 1899 in Eccleshall Bierlow Yorkshire and she in 1905 in Bloemfontein Orange Free State South Africa. I am unsure if they married in Britain or South Africa. She did come back to England when she was about 15 but she may have returned later.
Any help would be gratefully received.
Thanks in advance.
Ron

Connection?

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Miss Rose Kalthoeber
Name: Miss Rose Kalthoeber
Port of Departure: London, United Kingdom
Arrival Date: 27 Feb 1906
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Cape Town
Ship Name: Gascon
Search Ship Database: View the 'Gascon' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 106907

1911

1911 England Census
about Rose Moreton Kalthoeber
Name: Rose Moreton Kalthoeber
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Blocmfontein
Civil parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 266 Rochale Road Manchester
Occupation: School
Registration district: Manchester
Registration District Number: 466
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 24141
Household Members: Name Age
John Hann Kalthoeber 64
Rose Ann Kalthoeber 67
Florence Adeline Kalthoeber 33
Rose Moreton Kalthoeber 5



Andy

Rose in 1911; she came back long before she was 15:

Name: Rose Moreton Kalthoeber
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Blocmfontein
Civil parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 266 Rochale Road Manchester
Occupation: School
Registration district: Manchester
Registration District Number: 466
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 24141
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hann Kalthoeber 64 <<< head
Rose Ann Kalthoeber 67 <<< wife
Florence Adeline Kalthoeber 33 <<< daughter (single)
Rose Moreton Kalthoeber 5 <<< granddaughter

All the rest of the family born in England

Thanks Andrew and Beverley. This is definitely her, but I obviously got it wrong with her return to England. Just such a shame we can't get access to the later census records.

A tree on Ancestry has the marriage in SA, no date, but with childrens births 1930 to 1936.

His death 1948, hers 1971.

Andy

Brilliant Andy, thanks. I'll look that up.
Ron

Andy, was it Sarah's family tree that you were referring to? I have been in touch with her before, but it was a long time ago. Shame the marriage is unsourced. I don't have access to South African records. Any clues?

Have to go out now for a couple of hours so will sign back in later. Many thanks for help so far.
Ron

Yes, it was Sarahs' tree. She hasn't logged in to Ancestry for over a year.

Andy

Thanks Andy. Can anyone advise on access to South African records relating to this post please?

hi ronald
you could try here but you have to browse through them yourself



https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927115

Thanks safc, I'll have a trawl through