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John James - Watchmaker Liverpool born 1786

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jennifer

jennifer Report 1 Oct 2012 16:56

The above is my 3 x great grandfather married to Ann Walton. I have found him in Gores Directory of Liverpool 1827, living at 29, Scotland Road and I am trying to find out who his parents are and what they did for a living.

I know his son John Walton James (married to Elizabeth Christopher) also became a watchmaker, but cannot find anything going further back in time.

Please can anyone help me?

Many thanks,

Jennifer North (nee James)

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Oct 2012 17:05

maybe??

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1659-1812 about John James
Name: John James
Birth Date: 4 Jun
Baptism Date: 18 Jun 1786
Parish: Liverpool St Nicholas
Father's Name: William James
Occupation: Mariner
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Address: Mersey Street

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Oct 2012 17:14

Any idea if he had any siblings?

jennifer

jennifer Report 1 Oct 2012 17:20

No idea - he might have moved up from the west Country branch I mentioned before. They were all agricultural based around Gloucester as far as I have discovered. I never knew there were so many James's at the time, as the name has now died out in my family as far as I am aware. Too many girls born I,m afraid!

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Oct 2012 17:32

baptism record for one of John and Ann's children is same as the baptism that I found earlier, so could be correct?

England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," John James in entry for John James, 1804

name: John James
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Apr 1806
baptism/christening place: ST NICHOLAS,LIVERPOOL,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date: 03 Nov 1804

father's name: John James
mother's name: Ann Walton

indexing project (batch) number: C00599-8
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 93833
reference number:
Citing this Record

"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N5GX-Z5J : accessed 01 Oct 2012), John James in entry for John James, 03 Nov 1804; citing reference , FHL microfilm 93833.

jennifer

jennifer Report 1 Oct 2012 17:48

Ye gods! They must have been very young parents! I have discovered a lot about John Walton James and Eliza Christopher. It's going back that's giving me a problem. I find it hard to understand how the original John James became a watchmaker - he would have had to be apprenticed, and probably start as a finisher before he could call himself a watchmaker, which would have taken at least 7 years by my reckoning - what are your thoughts?