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JoyLouise
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30 Sep 2012 12:16 |
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I think Sarah may have joined her son and daughter-in-law in WA after Samuel's death. Although she gave her status as 'married' upon emigrating, I think she was a widow because I believe the Samuel Jones's death you found, Kath, fits perfectly. It could be that they both applied to emigrate shortly before Samuel's death - unless the Aus authorities required only married people and Sarah decided that her status was going to be married!
It looks as though the baby of the family, Leslie, was the one the parents followed to both Warwickshire and W Australia. I'll now see what happened to the older children because one or more of them may also have emigrated - the Newtons had itchy feet, I think.
Thanks, Kath. x
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KathleenBell
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30 Sep 2012 11:54 |
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Hi JoyLouise
Yes, I think you are probably right about the birth of John J. Jones. I missed that one because I was only looking for births registered in Newcastle-upon-Tyne district as I found the marriage of Sarah and Samuel in Tynemouth AFTER I found the other births.
Sarah may have joined either her son or her daughter-in-law if the death I found for Samuel was the right one.
Good luck in your search.
Kath. x
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JoyLouise
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30 Sep 2012 11:44 |
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Thanks, Kath.
You've confirmed what I've just found as far as the birth of Jones children are concerned. I also wondered whether John J Jones born 1915 Q1 was one of Sarah's children; as she married at a very young age in 1914, was she pregnant at the time of her marriage. (Perhaps you found that but you were reluctant to state the possibility?)
I had not got as far as Susan M Oughton as I'd just come across the marriage of her parents and thought it looks as though this is a 'goer'.
Now my mind's working overtime. Perhaps Leslie died shortly after arriving in WA and perhaps Sarah went to join her daughter-in-law, Sheila Margaret.
I'll have to check more, but thank you again.
x
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KathleenBell
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30 Sep 2012 11:39 |
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Possible (???) death for Samuel Jones, snr. (if they moved to Warwickshire with son Leslie). I can't find a likely one in Northumberland. :-
Name: JONES, Samuel Registration district: Birmingham County: Warwickshire Year of registration: 1960 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death: 65 Volume no: 9C Page no: 538
Kath. x
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KathleenBell
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30 Sep 2012 11:34 |
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Sarah's marriage to Samuel Jones:-
Name: NEWTON, Sarah G Registration district: Tynemouth County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1914 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Spouse's last name: Jones Volume no: 10B Page no: 535
Name: JONES, Samuel Registration district: Tynemouth County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1914 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Spouse's last name: Newton Volume no: 10B Page no: 535
Kath. x
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KathleenBell
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30 Sep 2012 11:32 |
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Possible other children for Sarah:-
Name: JONES, Thomas Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1916 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Mother's maiden name: Newton Volume no: 10B Page no: 327
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Name: JONES, Samuel Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1917 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's maiden name: Newton Volume no: 10B Page no: 49
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Name: JONES, Richard Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1921 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's maiden name: Newton Volume no: 10B Page no: 96
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Name: JONES, Ellen M Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1925 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Mother's maiden name: Newton Volume no: 10B Page no: 75
Kath. x
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KathleenBell
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30 Sep 2012 11:14 |
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This looks like the marriage of Leslie T. Jones:-
Name: JONES, Leslie T Registration district: Birmingham County: Warwickshire Year of registration: 1953 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name: Oughton Volume no: 9C Page no: 553
Name: OUGHTON, Sheila M Registration district: Birmingham County: Warwickshire Year of registration: 1953 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name: Jones Volume no: 9C Page no: 553
and the birth of Susan:-
Name: JONES, Susan M Registration district: Birmingham County: Warwickshire Year of registration: 1954 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's maiden name: Oughton Volume no: 9C Page no: 769 ----------
The birth of Leslie T. Jones:-
Name: JONES, Leslie T Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1927 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's maiden name: Newton<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Volume no: 10B Page no: 83
Kath. x
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PricklyHolly
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30 Sep 2012 11:13 |
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1901 England Census about Sarah G Newton Name: Sarah G Newton Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Newton Mother's Name: Annie Newton Gender: Female Where born: Newburn, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Throckley Ecclesiastical parish: Newburn St Michael Town: Throckley County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Castleward Sub-registration district: Newburn ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 59 Piece: 4818 Folio: 9 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age James Newton 43 (Coal Miner....Hewer) Annie Newton 44 Thomas Newton 16 May Ann Newton 14 Isabella Newton 10 Richard Newton 9 John Newton 7 Edward Newton 5 Sarah G Newton 3
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Sep 2012 11:08 |
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Name: Leslie T JONES (if related?) Date of departure: 12 February 1959 Port of departure: Tilbury Passenger destination port: Fremantle, Australia Passenger destination: Fremantle, Australia Date of Birth: 16 May 1927 Age: 32 (calculated from DOB) Marital status: Married Sex: Male Occupation: Tradesman's Asst Passenger recorded on: Page 12 of 32 (with Shelia M (born 27/5/32 and Susan M (1/12/54)
(last UK address as, Erdington Birmingham)
Chris :)
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KathleenBell
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30 Sep 2012 11:06 |
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This could be Sarah with her grandparents in the 1911 census (Throckley is very close to Newburn):-
1911 census transcription details for: 20 Stanley St Lemington O/t
National Archive Reference: RG14PN30877 RG78PN1765 RD560 SD3 ED7 SN61 Reg. District: Castle Ward Sub District: Newburn Parish: Newburn Hall Enum. District: 7
Address: 20 Stanley St Lemington O/t County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
NEWTON, Thomas Head Married 55 years M 78 1833 Coal Miner Hewer Northumberland Newburn NEWTON, Mary Wife Married 55 years F 76 1835 Northumberland Newburn NEWTON, Padison Son Married M 57 1854 Coal Miner Hewer None Worker Northumberland Newburn NEWTON, James Son Married M 53 1858 Coal Miner Hewer Northumberland Newburn NEWTON, Peter Son Single M 36 1875 Stoneman Miner Northumberland Northwallbottle NEWTON, Edward Grandson Single M 15 1896 Driver Pit Pony Northumberland Throckley NEWTON, Sarah Grandagter F 13 1898 School Northumberland Throckley<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Kath. x
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JoyLouise
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30 Sep 2012 10:48 |
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Thank you.
I don't expect that any children were born to Sarah in Australia as she would have been far too old when she arrived.
It makes me wonder whether her husband, Samuel, died in the UK and Sarah emigrated to join one or more children in Australia - that/those children must have been born in the UK, of course.
I'll search for children now because I can't imagine that Sarah emigrated to be alone in another country.
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Sep 2012 10:26 |
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(Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Find My Past )
Name: Sarah Gair JONES Date of departure: 3 December 1960 Port of departure: Southampton Date of Birth: 10 November 1896 Age: 64 (calculated from DOB) Marital status: Married Sex: Female Occupation: House Wife Country of birth: England (Northumberland) Last country of residence: Kent Intended country of residence: Australia (Mosman Park, Perth) UK address: Passenger recorded on: Sea departure card Ship: ORIANA
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Sarah Gair Jones Name: Sarah Gair Jones Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1963 State: Western Australia District: Fremantle Subdistrict: Cottesloe (4, Briggs Street, Mosman Park, also at address Sheila Margaret Jones)
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Sarah Gair Jones Name: Sarah Gair Jones Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1968 State: Western Australia District: Curtin Subdistrict: Cottesloe (same couple, same address)
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Sarah Gair Jones Name: Sarah Gair Jones Death Place: Western Australia Age: 74 Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary Registration Year: 1972 Registration Place: Fremantle, Western Australia Registration Number: 549/72 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Chris :)
edits (Leslie Terrence Jones, also 4, Briggs Street)
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PricklyHolly
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30 Sep 2012 10:25 |
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This might be of interest to you Joy...
Ancestry.com.au have a free weekend for Aus BMD records! Free til Monday.
http://www.ancestry.com.au/
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JoyLouise
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30 Sep 2012 10:11 |
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Would anyone be able to help with Sarah Gair Newton, please?
She was born in December 1897 at Newburn, Northumberland and she married Samuel Jones who was also believed born 1897.
At some stage they emigrated to Australia because her death is recorded (Sarah Gair Jones) in the Fremantle District of Western Australia in 1972.
It is not clear when they went to Australia or whether they had any children so I'd be grateful if anyone could help, please.
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