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John Richards b. Newport, Shropshire 1837

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Joseph

Joseph Report 26 Sep 2012 15:34

Not with him in 1881, and there are 33, yes 33 staff, I haven’t listed them.

1881 at 36, Dudley House, Park Lane, St George Hanover Square
WARD, William Head Married M 64 1817 Earl Of Dudley Edwardstone Boxford, Suffolk
WARD, Georgina E Wife Married F 33 1848 Countess Of Dudley Brighton, Sussex
WARD, Edith E Daughter Single F 8 1873 Glenorchy, Argyll, Scotland
WARD, Cyril A Son Single M 5 1876 St Georges Han SQ, Middlesex
WARD, Gerald E F Son Single M 3 1878 Witley, Worcestershire

Tracy

Tracy Report 26 Sep 2012 15:17

Assume you woudl have found this census infor for him in 1851 -

1851 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address
Parish Tong
District Shiffnal, Albrighton
Administrative County Shropshire

Householder 1
Name William Richards
Age 33
Estimated Year of Birth 1818
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Agricultural Labourer
Birth Place Gnosall
Birth County Staffordshire

Householder 2
Name John Richards
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1837
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Agricultural Labourer
Birth Place Newport
Birth County Salop

Householder 3
Name Fredrick Richards
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1840
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Tong
Birth County Salop

Householder 4
Name Henry Richards
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1842
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Tong
Birth County Salop
Householder 5
Name Joseph Richards
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1844
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Tong
Birth County Salop

I have found this fro a John Richards and it does show him being a footman but not sure it gives you any clarity on the Earl aspect -

1861 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address Village
Parish Bishopstoke
District Winchester, Twyford
Administrative County Hampshire

Householder 1
Name Sarah Bate
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1839
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation Cook Domestic
Birth Place Bridgnorth
Birth County ...

Householder 2
Name Amelia Foxall
Age 17
Estimated Year of Birth 1844
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation House Maid
Birth Place Bridgnorth
Birth County Shropshire

Householder 3
Name John Richards
Age 24
Estimated Year of Birth 1837
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation Footman
Birth Place Worfield
Birth County Shropshire

sorry if this isn't helpful but all I can find.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Sep 2012 15:11

As the name is so common, can't be sure if this is him, but he is a FOOTMAN

1861

Name: John Richards
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Worfield, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Bishopstoke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Winchester
Sub-registration district: Twyford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 34
Piece: 694
Folio: 51
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Terren 69
Sarah A Hill 14
Sarah Bate 22
Amelia Fossell 17
John Richards 24

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Sep 2012 15:05

His occupation will be stated on his marriage cert, as will his father's details (if known)

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 26 Sep 2012 15:05

1851:
Name: John Richards
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Richards
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Newport, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Tong
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Agricultural labourer

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Shiffnal
Sub-registration district: Albrighton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 1987
Folio: 163
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
William Richards 33
John Richards 14
Fredrick Richards 11
Henry Richards 9
Joseph Richards 7

Trevor

Trevor Report 26 Sep 2012 14:49

This is my GT/Gt/ grandfather. Family stories suggeest he was Butler? Footman? to the Earl of Dudley c. 1860. He married Ann mason b. Baschurch, Salop in Dudley in march 1864. I am trying to find out if there is any truth in this family story ans info abt. his life prior to that. i believe he grew up in Tong, salop/Staffs.
trevor