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Not with him in 1881, and there are 33, yes 33 staff, I haven’t listed them.
1881 at 36, Dudley House, Park Lane, St George Hanover Square WARD, William Head Married M 64 1817 Earl Of Dudley Edwardstone Boxford, Suffolk WARD, Georgina E Wife Married F 33 1848 Countess Of Dudley Brighton, Sussex WARD, Edith E Daughter Single F 8 1873 Glenorchy, Argyll, Scotland WARD, Cyril A Son Single M 5 1876 St Georges Han SQ, Middlesex WARD, Gerald E F Son Single M 3 1878 Witley, Worcestershire
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Assume you woudl have found this census infor for him in 1851 -
1851 Census Household RecordHousehold Information Address Parish Tong District Shiffnal, Albrighton Administrative County Shropshire
Householder 1 Name William Richards Age 33 Estimated Year of Birth 1818 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Agricultural Labourer Birth Place Gnosall Birth County Staffordshire
Householder 2 Name John Richards Age 14 Estimated Year of Birth 1837 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Agricultural Labourer Birth Place Newport Birth County Salop
Householder 3 Name Fredrick Richards Age 11 Estimated Year of Birth 1840 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Scholar Birth Place Tong Birth County Salop
Householder 4 Name Henry Richards Age 9 Estimated Year of Birth 1842 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Scholar Birth Place Tong Birth County Salop Householder 5 Name Joseph Richards Age 7 Estimated Year of Birth 1844 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Scholar Birth Place Tong Birth County Salop
I have found this fro a John Richards and it does show him being a footman but not sure it gives you any clarity on the Earl aspect -
1861 Census Household RecordHousehold Information Address Village Parish Bishopstoke District Winchester, Twyford Administrative County Hampshire
Householder 1 Name Sarah Bate Age 22 Estimated Year of Birth 1839 Relationship to Head of Household Servant Occupation Cook Domestic Birth Place Bridgnorth Birth County ...
Householder 2 Name Amelia Foxall Age 17 Estimated Year of Birth 1844 Relationship to Head of Household Servant Occupation House Maid Birth Place Bridgnorth Birth County Shropshire
Householder 3 Name John Richards Age 24 Estimated Year of Birth 1837 Relationship to Head of Household Servant Occupation Footman Birth Place Worfield Birth County Shropshire
sorry if this isn't helpful but all I can find.
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As the name is so common, can't be sure if this is him, but he is a FOOTMAN
1861
Name: John Richards Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Worfield, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Bishopstoke County/Island: Hampshire Country: England
Registration district: Winchester Sub-registration district: Twyford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 34 Piece: 694 Folio: 51 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Terren 69 Sarah A Hill 14 Sarah Bate 22 Amelia Fossell 17 John Richards 24
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His occupation will be stated on his marriage cert, as will his father's details (if known)
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1851: Name: John Richards Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Richards Gender: M (Male) Where born: Newport, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Tong County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Agricultural labourer
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: Shiffnal Sub-registration district: Albrighton ED, institution, or vessel: 11b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 20 Piece: 1987 Folio: 163 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age William Richards 33 John Richards 14 Fredrick Richards 11 Henry Richards 9 Joseph Richards 7
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This is my GT/Gt/ grandfather. Family stories suggeest he was Butler? Footman? to the Earl of Dudley c. 1860. He married Ann mason b. Baschurch, Salop in Dudley in march 1864. I am trying to find out if there is any truth in this family story ans info abt. his life prior to that. i believe he grew up in Tong, salop/Staffs. trevor
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