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Help with Ancestor on 1891 census

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Lesley

Lesley Report 25 Sep 2012 13:19

I found an Ancestor on the 1891 census on Familysearch.org, but it doesn't list the others in the Household. She is down as the Daughter.
The name of the ancestor is, Harriet McCauley, it is spelt Harriett Macauley, on Family search. It says, she is aged 8. Born in Poplar, Middlesex. Living in, St Luke's, District of West ham, Civil parish of Canning Town, Essex.

I have searched on Ancestry for her on the 1891 census, using both spellings of her name, but nothing is coming up.
You can't search the census information on familysearch, to see who else is in the Household, which is really stupid. Can anyone help with this please

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Sep 2012 13:26

This one..........?

1891 England Census
about Harriett J Macaulay
Name: Harriett J Macaulay
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Harriett Macaulay
Gender: Female
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1318
Folio: 102
Page Number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Harriett Macaulay 46 ...Married...Born Loughborough Leicestershire
Harriett J Macaulay 8
Res: 26 Clever Road.


Maddie

Maddie Report 25 Sep 2012 13:28

MACAULAY, Harriett Head Married F 46 1845
Loughborough, Leicestershire VIEW
MACAULAY, Harriett J Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Poplar, Middlesex VIEW

Piece: 1318

Folio: 102

Page: 42

Registration District: West Ham

Civil Parish: Canning Town

Municipal Borough: West Ham

Address: 26, Clever Road, Canning Town, West Ham

County: Essex
redefine current search back to 1891 census search results

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 25 Sep 2012 13:33


Lesley re your comment

"You can't search the census information on familysearch, to see who else is in the Household, which is really stupid. Can anyone help with this please"

The reason for that is because other sites like Ancestry & Find my Past have paid out large sums of money to digitise these records so that they can be viewed online, that is why you have to pay a subscription to those sites.

George

Lesley

Lesley Report 25 Sep 2012 13:41

PrickleyHolly

Yes that's the one, thank you very much. Where did you find all this info showing her Mother
Thank you

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Sep 2012 13:42

Can't see a baptism for her, but looks like possible birth:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Harriet Julia McCauley
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1882
Registration district: Poplar
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 608

Lesley

Lesley Report 25 Sep 2012 13:43

Maddie

Thank you so much for this information on the 1891 census. I couldn't find it anywhere. Is this from Familysearch. How do you get to look at it all

Lesley

Lesley Report 25 Sep 2012 13:44

MarieCeleste

Yes, that is her birth, thank you so much

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Sep 2012 13:46

The 1891 i posted is from Ancestry.

Lesley

Lesley Report 25 Sep 2012 13:49

George_of_Westbury

Thank you. I couldn't even find it on Ancestry, but that is because the surname is spelt different to the original surname spelling, as I have just found out, from the census

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 Sep 2012 13:50

Hi
it is from find my past, a subscirption site

on family search if you click on the image on the left where it says visit partner site, it will open the census record for you
maddie

Lesley

Lesley Report 25 Sep 2012 13:51

PricklyHolly
Thank you very much.

Lesley

Lesley Report 25 Sep 2012 13:52

Maddie

Thank you for letting me know how to open the census on this site.

Lesley

Lesley Report 25 Sep 2012 13:57

MarieCeleste

Yes, this is her birth. Many thanks again

Lesley

Lesley Report 25 Sep 2012 13:58

Many thanks to you all for finding this census and other information. I am very grateful

mgnv

mgnv Report 26 Sep 2012 04:38

Re: it is spelt Harriett Macauley, on Family search
No it's not - it's spelled Harriett J MacaulAy on FS

There's only 1 Harriett J Macaulay showing up on Ancestry 1891

If I search the catalogue at:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/default.asp?j=1
for Canning Town 1891-1891 with dept code=RG, I get:
RG 12/1316 Registration Sub-District 2A West Ham Civil Parish, Township or Place: Canning Town 1891
RG 12/1317 Registration Sub-District 2B West Ham Civil Parish, Township or Place: Canning Town 1891
RG 12/1318 Registration Sub-District 2C West Ham Civil Parish, Township or Place: Canning Town 1891
RG 12/1319 Registration Sub-District 2D West Ham Civil Parish, Township or Place: Canning Town 1891
RG 12/1320 Registration Sub-District 2E West Ham Civil Parish, Township or Place: Canning Town 1891
RG 12/1321 Registration Sub-District 2F West Ham Civil Parish, Township or Place: Canning Town 1891
RG 12/1322 Civil Parish, Township or Place: Canning Town 1891
RG 12/1322 Civil Parish, Township or Place: Canning Town 1891
RG 12/1323 Civil Parish, Township or Place: Canning Town 1891
RG 12/1327 Civil Parish, Township or Place: Canning Town 1891

Now, returning to my Ancestry hit, I can try entering piece #s, one by one, until I determine Harriett's in 1318.
Next I can search for all Macaulay in rg12/1318 - there's just 2:

Name Parent or Spouse Names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Residence View Image
Harriett Macaulay abt 1845 city, Leicestershire, England relation city, Essex
Harriett J Macaulay name abt 1883 city, Middlesex, England relation city, Essex

Now I can guess/look for all Macaulay who are head of h/h, all whose mother is Harriett, etc.
I can then look up Harriett a=46 on FS.
This time it gets me the whole h/h, but you never know if some non-Macaulay is in the h/h.
It's not very satisfactory.

NB - I'm using Ancestry's old style search above.

Lesley

Lesley Report 26 Sep 2012 18:18

mgnv

Wow !! Thank you very much for all this information.