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Marion Bianchi 1847

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brownandfire

brownandfire Report 24 Sep 2012 22:52

I am trying to find out about my Great Grand Aunt Marion Bianchi, born 1847 in Carlisle.
I have her on the 1851 census living in Newcastle aged 4
Father is John Bianchi born 1819
Mother is Ann (Tweddell) born 1825
She also has a brother John Charles born 1845.
She seems to have disappeared after this and I can't find any record of her death.
Please can anyone help

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Sep 2012 22:53

Have you found her parents on later census ?

Did John marry and was she a witness

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Sep 2012 22:55

1851 presume this one ??

Name: Marion Branche
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Branche
Mother's Name: Ann Branche
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Newcastle upon Tyne St Andrew
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 269
Piece: 2405
Folio: 364
Page Number: 68
Household Members: Name Age
John Branche 32 - Newcastle
Ann Branche 26 - Carlisle
John Branche 6
Marion Branche 4

Class: HO107; Piece: 2405; Folio: 364; Page: 68; GSU roll: 87083.


John is a blacksmith

brownandfire

brownandfire Report 24 Sep 2012 23:08

Hi, That would be the family, Bianchi is a strange name and often spelt wrongly.
I haven't found a marriage between Ann and John but I have the birth Certificate for the son John Charles showing th parents names.
Marions mother Ann Tweddell died , I don't know when and john remarried Ann Standage in 1869 although they had had 4 children by then.

patchem

patchem Report 24 Sep 2012 23:15

Could you post the 1861 census for the family?
Thank-you

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Sep 2012 23:23

:-S

Is the birth of John registered in Newcastle but without a middle name ?

Just wondering about the birth of a Mary Ann but might be too early

??
Births Mar 1846 (>99%)
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BIANCHIE Mary Ann Newcastle Tyne 25 400


Or this one
Births Mar 1847 (>99%)
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Bianchi Mary Ann Newcastle T 25 390?

brownandfire

brownandfire Report 24 Sep 2012 23:26

I'm sorry but I can't find any of the family in 1861
I haven't got anything until 1871 when john was staying a s a lodger with his son (now known as Charles) and his wife was at a different address. I think they travelled around as my Granddad was born in London. Sorry it is really confusing, it took me weeks to sort it out

brownandfire

brownandfire Report 24 Sep 2012 23:37

John is registered as just John Bianchi in newcastle.

Mary Ann could easily be Marion I reckon and yet another spelling of Bianchi! I have really been getting my knickers in a twist as all my family seem to be called John or Charles

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Sep 2012 23:38

1861 so who is John Bianche b1822 Newcastle with wife Ann

brownandfire

brownandfire Report 24 Sep 2012 23:43

Sorry GlitterBaby, have you found something on the 1861 census, I have been looking on findmypast & couldn't see anything.

patchem

patchem Report 24 Sep 2012 23:43

Is John definitely a (black)smith?
Thanks

brownandfire

brownandfire Report 24 Sep 2012 23:48

It says he is on his marriage certificate to Ann Standage

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Sep 2012 23:53

1861 ??
Name: John Bianche
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda Chapelry
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 259
Piece: 3787
Folio: 23
Page Number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
John Bianche 39
Ann Bianche 24
George Bianche 3
William Bianche 1

Class: RG 9; Piece: 3787; Folio: 23; Page: 40; GSU roll: 543187.


Which Ancestry cross ref to this one

1841
Name: John Biancha
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Northumberland, England

Civil parish: St John
Hundred: Tindale (East Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 848
Book: 5
Folio: 9
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
John Biancha 20 - occupation of smith
Ann Biancha 20

Class: HO107; Piece: 848; Book: 5; Civil Parish: St John; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 15; Folio: 9; Page: 9; Line: 8; GSU roll: 438899.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Sep 2012 23:56

oh bother

1871
Name: Ann Bianchi
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull
Civil parish: Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Jarrow
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 161
Piece: 5040
Folio: 68
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Bianchi 34
George Bianchi 14
Harry Bianchi 11
John T Bianchi 5
Frank Bianchi 11 Months

So looks like two families with similar names

brownandfire

brownandfire Report 24 Sep 2012 23:58

That is the family George(1857) and William(1860) were the children of John and 2nd wife Ann Standage....Thanks

brownandfire

brownandfire Report 25 Sep 2012 00:03

Hi GlitterBaby
That looks like my family.. The childrens names agree except for Harry but that could be William Henry. John T is my granddad. I have obviously not been looking in the right place.

brownandfire

brownandfire Report 25 Sep 2012 00:19

I am signing of now as I am an old lady and it is past my bedtime. Thank you all and I'll check in tomorrow