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Walter Howe/How. Born 1856 Chirton/North Shields. S/o Thomas Howe & Esther Hall. Named after his paternal grandfather Walter How(e). Another enigma,but that´s another story.
Have Walter jnr in 61,71 & 81 with his parents. Then he vanishes apart from finding him in Mile End Old Town workhouse in 1911. It´s definitely him, listed as a widower, tailor born North Shields.
The only other clue is a marriage in Mile End in 1895 when he would have been almost 40. Can´t find the marriage on the London marriages & Banns, so it could have been non conformist or register office.Don´t know which of the two ladies he married.
Walter´s occupation of tailor ties in with his maternal grandfather Thomas Hall. The Hall men were tailors in Northumberland for generations.
No idea when Walter moved to London, nor whether he had been married before.
Help please.

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England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Walter Howe
Name: Walter Howe
Birth Date: abt 1854
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1917
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 398

Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Aransolo Ann Jane L Mile End 1c 809
BRYANT Ellen Mile End 1c 809
Day John Mile End 1c 809
Howe Walter Mile End 1c 809

1901
DAY, John Head Married M 74 1827 Pensioned Engineer
Harpenden, Hertfordshire
DAY, Ann J L Wife Married F 45 1856
Newington, London
Piece: 637
Folio: 17
Page: 25
Registration District: Croydon
Civil Parish: Croydon
Municipal Borough:
Address: 28, Newark Road, Croydon
County: Surrey

(looks like it was Ellen, 1891 Census Ann, Lewisham)

Chris :)

Thank you both.
Maddie, I have the death. Presume he died in the workhouse. He couldn´t have been married very long if he was a widower in1911.
Chris. I decided it was Ellen too, but can´t find her in 1901. Wonder if she died before the census?
Back to the drawing board. :-( :-(

1891 ?
BRYANT, Walter Head Married M 38 1853 Tailor
Shields (nth written by side)
BRYANT, Helen Wife Married F 38 1853 Tailoress
London
Piece: 309
Folio: 26
Page: 14
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Municipal Borough:
Address: 25, Duckett Street, Mile End Old Town
County: London

Chris :)

That 1891 looks VERY interesting Chris !!

Dea x

Thanks Chris.
That´s the chap. Wonder why he was usung his wife´s surname, except that she wasn´t his wife until 1895.
Presume she was married to someone else.
Marion

No luck with 1901...

(not all London Parishes covered on Ancestry Marriages as yet, big shame!)

Chris :)

Thanks Chris.
Have found Ellen Bryant in 1881 saying she is married & with 2 sons Francis aged 7 & Joseph aged 5.
Francis was actually Francis Walter b 1876 Islington, so I´m wondering if Ellen & Walter were together much earlier than I thought (although he is on the 1881 with his parents in Northumberland). Can´t find either baptism, nor can I trace the boys in 1891.
Looks like a dead end for Ellen/Helen as I have no idea what her maiden name was without sending for a birth cert for one of the boys, which I don´t want to do as this isn´t my direct line.
many thanks for your help.

Are you sure about Francis being Walter's son?

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Births Jun 1876 Bryant Francis Walter Islington 1b 590
Deaths Dec 1879 Bryant Francis 3 Islington 1b 195

There's a good chance Ellen's maiden name was Bryant. 1881 has her born Whitechapel.

Births Sep 1854 Briant Ellen Whitechapel 1c 380

1861 England Census
Name: Ellen Briant
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward Bieant
Mother's Name: Sarah Briant
Gender: Female
Where born: Aldgate, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Botolph without Aldgate
Ecclesiastical parish: Aldgate St Botolph
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Crown Court
Registration district: Whitechapel <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Sub-registration district: Aldgate
Piece: 274
Folio: 3
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Briant 46 - Labourer, born Aldgate
Sarah Briant 40 - born Spitalfields
Margaret Briant 19 - Umbrella Maker
Edward Briant 14 - Cigar Maker
Robert Briant 12 - Errand Boy
William Briant 8 - Scholar
Ellen Briant 6
James Briant 3
Mary Ann Briant 1

1871 England Census
Name: Ellen Briant
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Sarah Briant
Gender: Female
Where born: Aldgate, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Botolph without Aldgate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Dock Street
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 13 Well Yard
Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Aldgate
Piece: 524
Folio: 62
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Briant 50 - widow, Dress Maker, born Aldgate
Edward Briant 24 - Cigar Maker
Ellen Briant 17 - Sack Maker
James Briant 14 - Cigar Maker
Mary Briant 10 - Scholar

Thanks Ozibird.
It had crossed my mind that she wasn´t being entirely truthful on the 81 when she said she was married, but the occupation matches as Walter was a tailor & she was a dressmaker, as was her mother if it´s the right person in 1871.