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I wonder if this is the death of Eliza / Ann Eliza , wife of Louis the elder. If so it would support the 1854 Chambers-Rothenberg marriage.

Name: Ann E Rothenberg
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1910
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 341

Thanks to all for your input. It certainly helps with earlier research for which I'm extremely grateful. Really frustrating that Florence is so elusive in 1901. Will carry on tomorrow. Good night to all

Louis does seem to be son of Louis and Eliza though:

Name: Louis Rothenberg
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Jan 1863
Father's Name: Louis Rothenberg
Mother's Name: Eliza Rothenberg
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St John
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Father a compositer, Address Treadway St

Siblings Ellen Eliza, Jesse & Samuel baptised the same day.

Louis's birth date given as either 14th or 19th Aug (can't quite make it out) 1859.


Possible marriage? if Ann prefered using her second name. Daur Ellen Eliza was born July 14th 1855.


Marriages Dec 1854
>>>Chambers Ann Eliza Clerkenwell 1b 724
Collins Elizabeth Clerkenwell 1b 724
Girling John Clerkenwell 1b 724
>>>Rothenberg Louis Clerkenwell 1b 724

Lydia Rothenberg with father Louis, a compositer in census 1871, but Louis jr c1861 not listed with the family in this census.

Louis's birthplace transcribed Germany but possibly Hanover on image.

Address: Treadway St, Bethnal Green County: London, Middlesex

ROTHENBERG, Louis Head M 41 1830 Germany Compositer
ROTHENBERG, Eliza Wife F 36 1835 Middlesex
ROTHENBERG, Jessie Daughter F 12 1859 Middlesex
ROTHENBERG, Samuel Son M 8 1863 Middlesex
ROTHENBERG, Joseph Son M 7 1864 Middlesex
ROTHENBERG, William Son M 5 1866 Middlesex
ROTHENBERG, Alice Daughter F 3 1868 Middlesex
ROTHENBERG, Lydia Daughter F 2 1869 Middlesex
ROTHENBERG, Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1870 Middlesex
ROLF, William Lodger M 29 1842 Warwickshire
BOTTOMLY, - Lodger F 40 1831 Middlesex

Interesting that Eleanor's/Elinor Emily's birth date and baptism are just prior to marriage of Louis and Mary Ann

Name: Eleanor Rothenberg
Age: 7
Birth Date: 17 Nov 1888
School: Morning Lane School
Borough: Hackney
Admission Date: 14 Sep 1896
Parent: Louis
Notes: Morning Lane School opened in 1884. Became Morningside Primary School and Joseph Priestly Secondary School in 1951
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV04/MOR/AD/005


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HI GB - I think Lydia was a sister of Louis (only 10 yrs younger) , aunt of Florence and they both shared a father, also Louis, who was also a compositer

A very mangled transcript!!!

Name: Mary Ann Snow
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Age: 19
Spouse Name: Louisa Rothenberg - compositor
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1888
Parish: Haggerston St Augustine
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Frederick Snow - cabinet maker
Spouse Father Name: Louisa Rothenberg - compositor
Register Type: Parish Register

The family in 1891:-


1891 England Census about Lewis Rotherbey
Name: Lewis Rotherbey
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Rotherbey
Gender: Male
Where born: St Luke
Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 17 ?

Occupation:Printer Compositor

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel: 13a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 259
Folio: 74
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Lewis Rotherbey 30
Mary A Rotherbey 21
Eleanor Rotherbey 2
Louis Rotherbey 9/12

Hi GlitterBaby, long time no speak. How are you? Yes he was a compositor. Speak again later.

Does she have a sister Lydia b1871 who married Harry Richardson in 1892 ?

Or are there two Rothenberg families with the father called Louis and a compositor ?

Fuller version of 1911
1911 England Census about Louis Rothenberg
Name: Louis Rothenberg
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil parish: St John-at-Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 63 Navarino Road, Dalston N E
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: COMPOSITOR
Registration district: Hackney
Registration District Number: 11
Sub-registration district: South West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 1111
Household Members:
Name Age
Louis Rothenberg 50
Mary Ann Rothenberg 42 - Birth Place: Bethnal Green
Emily Rothenberg 22 - Birth Place: Hackney
Louis Frederick Rothenberg 20 - Birth Place: Hackney
.....................................................................................................................

Perhaps?
JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry (JOWBR) about Louis Rottanberg
Name: Louis Rottanberg
Birth Date: abt 1890
Death Date: 4 Aug 1946
Age at Death: 56
Burial Place: Johannesburg, South Africa
Cemetery: Chevra Kadisha, Johannesburg
Cemetery Burials: 38083
Cemetery Comments: Johannesburg Jewish Helping Hand & Burial Society
.........................................................................................................................

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Eleanor Emily Rothenberg
Name: Eleanor Emily Rothenberg
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1888
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 612

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Elinor Emily Rothenberg
Name: Elinor Emily Rothenberg
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Dec 1888
Father's Name: Louis Rothenberg
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Rothenberg
Parish or Poor Law Union: Haggerston St Augustine
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

............so she had two siblings!

Dear All
I have to leave the boards for about an hour, but will return afterwards so don't think I'm ignoring you.

So her father appears to be a witness at her marriage and gives his occupation of compositor

Ann
This is a different Frank Guyatt. I'm not looking at the Guyatt side at the moment, only the Rothenbergs and Florence in particular, but thanks anyway

Frank H Guyott
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1889 Islington,? London
census: 31 Mar 1901 Islington,? London,? Middlesex,? England


name: Frank H Guyott
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 12
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Islington, London
record type: Household
registration district: Islington
sub-district: Highbury
ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
civil parish: Islington
county: London, Middlesex

Catherine
Thanks. That looks like her.. Is there a home address on the admission document by any chance, please?

Ann
The 1911 for Louis is the correct father of Florence but I can't find him or her in the 1901

London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 about Florence Rothenburg
Name: Florence Rothenburg
Age: 3
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1893
School: St John The Evangelist School
Borough: Camden
Admission Date: 25 Feb 1896
Parent: Lewis
Notes: Non-provided school school (0136)
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV03/STJOH2/AD/004

1st address (crossed out) - 4 Leigh St.
2nd address (crossed out) - 55 Theobald Road
Other address - 10 Old N St. (but this may belong to the person on the line above as her address is 8 Old N St.

In column for "reason for leaving last school) is written (Gone to Wild St.) so this may be their new address?

????

Louis Rothenberg
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: City London,? London
census: 1911 St John At Hackney,? Dalston N E,? London,? England


name: Louis Rothenberg
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 50
birthplace: City London, London
record type: Household
registration district: Hackney
sub-district: South West Hackney
parish: St John At Hackney
county: London

Florance Ethel Rothenberg
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Hackney London,? London
census: 1911 Wandsworth,? Putney S W,? London,? England


name: Florance Ethel Rothenberg
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 18
birthplace: Hackney London, London
record type: Household
registration district: Wandsworth
sub-district: Putney
parish: Wandsworth
county: London