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James Brown is my great grandfather, he married Sarah Ann Davey in Deptford in 1888. He died in 1922 in Hackney. He changed the family name to Holloway in around 1900, reason unknown but it would appear that it wasn't an official change because on his death certifiacte he is James Holloway Brown so Holloway could be a family christian name. I am trying to find his birth around 1863. James had an oil and paint shop on Chatsworth Road Hackney. In the 1891 census his birthplace is Kent. In the 1901 census (where he is called Holloway) his birthplace is Homerton and the 1911 census his birthplace is Bexley Kent. Sarah died in 1908 and James married Julia Stanmore in Hackney.
On his and Sarah's marriage certificate his father is James Brown, a tanner but on James and Julia's certificate father is Thomas Brown, coachsmith, journeyman. I looked for James junior's father James on Family Search and a James Holloway Brown appeared, baptised in 1834 at Holy Trinity Clapham, parents William a coachman, and Mary Ann Brown. I tend to believe that this person is my gteat great grandfather. This does not help much in my search for James my great grandfather because I do not know his mothers name or anything about his father other than his baptism in Clapham.

This looks like this could possibly be the parents of the James Holloway Brown who you found the baptism of in 1834. They had a later child Sarah Maria in 1841

No sign of them in 1841 and they looked to have married in 1840 so probalbly the wrong family

1851

Name: William Brown
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Freshpole Brown
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Clapham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Clapham
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Piece: 1576
Folio: 426
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
William Brown 39
Mary Freshpole Brown 31
Sarah Maria Brown 9
Anthony Brown 7
Mary Elizth Brown 6
Charlotte Brown 2
William Chas Brown 9 Mo
Sarah Crook 39
Lydia Heath 39 Nurse
Hannah Brown 27 Housemaid
Mary Hire 17 Cook


parents: William Brown,? Mary Reshfield

name: Sarah Maria Brown
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 27 May 1841
baptism/christening place: HOLY TRINITY,CLAPHAM,SURREY,ENGLAND
birth date: 20 Apr 1841
father's name: William Brown
mother's name: Mary Reshfield
indexing project (batch) number: C05845-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 307716, 307717, 307718, 3077

Thank you for your reply and for the results of your investigation. It would be a huge coincidence if Sarah Maria's baptism at Holy Trinity was not linked to the baptism of James Holloway Brown in 1834. It would be even more convincing if Sarah had Holloway in her name. I am keeping an open mind and continue to dig.
Kind regards Naomi

Father, William is a merchant for above baptism of Sarah.


1841 census transcription details for: Cressent, Clapham
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1053
Book/Folio: 8/31
Page: 5
Reg. District: Wandsworth & Clapham
Sub District: Clapham
Parish: Clapham
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Cressent, Clapham
County: Surrey
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
BROWN, William M 25 1816 stationer
BROWN, Mary F 20 1821
BROWN, Sarah F 1 1840 Surrey
KING, Charlotte F 20 1821
SMITH, Mary F 55 1786
NUNN, Mary F 20 1821
REEVES, Elizabeth F 30 1811

Thank you Ann, James Brown's (1863) father was James also not Isaac. I appreciate you taking the trouble to have a look for me Naomi.

Thanks very much Alviegal for finding all that out for me Naomi

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James Brown
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 29 Apr 1864
christening: 22 May 1864 Finsbury,? Middlesex,? England
residence: 1864 Finsbury,? Middlesex,? England
parents: James Brown,? Mary Ann Brown


name: James Brown
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 22 May 1864
baptism/christening place: Finsbury, Middlesex, England
birth date: 29 Apr 1864
father's name: James Brown
mother's name: Mary Ann Brown
indexing project (batch) number: C01363-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 585444

James C Brown
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1865 Hackney,? Middlesex,? England
census: 1881 Hackney,? Middlesex,? England
parents: James Brown,? Emma M Brown


name: James C Brown
age: 16
gender: Male
birth year: 1865
birthplace: Hackney, Middlesex, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Timber Merchts Clerk
address: 366 Kingsland Rd
census place: Hackney, Middlesex, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341063
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 294 / 89
page number:

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James Brown
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1861 Hackney,? Middlesex
residence: 1871 Hackney,? London,? Middlesex,? England
parents: James Brown,? Ann Brown


name: James Brown
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 10
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Hackney, Middlesex
record type: Household
registration district: Hackney
sub-district: Hackney, South
event parish: Hackney
county: London, Middlesex

James Brown
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1861 London
residence: 1871 Bethnal Green,? London,? Middlesex,? England
parents: James Brown,? Sarah Brown


name: James Brown
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 10
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: London
record type: Household
registration district: Bethnal Green
sub-district: Green
event parish: Bethnal Green
county: London, Middlesex

James Brown
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1865 Kilburn,? Middlesex
residence: 1871 Bromley,? London,? Middlesex,? England
parents: James Brown,? Barbara Brown


name: James Brown
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 6
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Kilburn, Middlesex
record type: Household
registration district: Poplar
sub-district: Bow
event parish: Bromley
county: London, Middlesex

James Brown
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1863 Bethnal Green
residence: 1871 London,? Bethnal Green,? London,? Middlesex,? England
parents: James Brown,? Elizabeth Brown


name: James Brown
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 8
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Bethnal Green
record type: Household
registration district: Bethnal Green
sub-district: Hackney Road
event parish: Bethnal Green
county: London, Middlesex

James Brown
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1862 Bethnal Green,? Middlesex
residence: 1871 Bethnal Green,? London,? Middlesex,? England
parents: James Brown,? Harriett Brown


name: James Brown
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 9
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Bethnal Green, Middlesex
record type: Household
registration district: Bethnal Green
sub-district: Church
event parish: Bethnal Green
county: London, Middlesex

Thank you so much for all the information, I haven't had time to digest it properly yet but there seem to be several possibles. I am so grateful Naomi