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Keziah Welch can anyone help with my search please

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Jean

Jean Report 23 Sep 2012 13:07

Hi RamblingRose.

Thankyou for looking.

Jean

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Sep 2012 12:07

No sign of her in 1851 Jean, that seems to be the worst census in terms of people missed off.

Jean

Jean Report 23 Sep 2012 11:07

hi,

thanks for looking that up for me, I already have this info on Ancestry, I have her birth cert and both marriage certs. its just that I cant find where she was in 1851.

never mind, will put it on hold for a while and keep checking every so often.

thanks for your help.

jean

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 23 Sep 2012 10:48

Keziah married again, in her banns she is Keziah Welch Francis widow. James Is CLACK not Clark. Both signed with a cross. Witnesses Sarah Clack and Alfred Stan?????. James's address NEw Sreet, her address not clear but Great Ge??? street his father Richard a gardener her hather Henry dead

Keziah Francis
Spouse Name: James Clark
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Nov 1879
Parish: Hammersmith St Peter
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: Henry Welch
Spouse Father Name: Michael Clark
Register Type: Parish Regist

1881

Name: Kezia Clack
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Clack
Gender: Female
Where born: Sellworth, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Chiswick
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 23 William St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: H
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Chiswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1350
Folio: 71
Page Number: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
James Clack 29 ***labourer born Chiswick
Kezia Clack 34
George Francis 17***brother in law
William Francis 12***step son
Edwin Francis 11***step son
Keziah Francis 9 ***step daughter
Caroline Francis 6 ***step daughter
Kate Clack 1 daughter

Living 23 William Street
***previously she was at number 18 William St

Jean

Jean Report 22 Sep 2012 21:36

hi MarieCeleste,

I didnt think of that.

thank's for your help tho.

jean

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Sep 2012 19:27

Well, I've searched high and low for Keziah in 1851 with no joy.

Only suggestion I can make is that if Henry Francis provided the details for the census he didn't mention her because she wasn't his own daughter.

Jean

Jean Report 22 Sep 2012 18:45

Thanks for your replies, keziah went on to marry her stepfather. I have her bith certificate, no father listed, also the marriage certificate for her and Henry, altho she states Henry as her father.

I do not have access to FMP, so that is a new thing to think about. I will look on Ancestry to try and find baptism of Keziah on there.

Thanks again

Jean

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 22 Sep 2012 18:06

Possibly Kezias baptism from FMP as Welsh

Transcription page details

Surname:Welsh
Forenames:Kezia
Baptism Year:1846
Baptism Month:DEC
Baptism Day: 8
Mother:Catherine
Father:Birth Year:Birth Month:Birth Day:
Place:IsleworthCounty:MiddlesexSource:All Saints Isleworth 1837-1852 baptisms
Notes:(NO FATHER NAMED)
Record source:Thames & Medway Baptisms Data provider:Rob Cottrell, Trueflare LimitedTranscriptions © Rob Cottrell, Trueflare Limited

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Sep 2012 18:01

Must have missed that Rose.

Just checked and it is on the list of forbidden marriages so definitely wasn't legal (although I'm not sure what, if any, action would have been taken).
http://www.genetic-genealogy.co.uk/Toc115570145.html

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Sep 2012 17:46

Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)

Francis Henry Kensington 1a 33

WELCH Keziah Kensington 1a 33

just a thought?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Sep 2012 17:32

I can't see a marriage for them (possibly because it wasn't legal?)

Astra

Astra Report 22 Sep 2012 17:26

Does Henry marry Keziah??

FRANCIS, Henry Head M 44 1827 Middlesex VIEW
FRANCIS, Keziah Wife F 26 1845 Middlesex VIEW
FRANCIS, James Son M 20 1851 Middlesex VIEW
FRANCIS, Thomas Son M 18 1853 Middlesex VIEW
FRANCIS, David Son M 15 1856 Middlesex VIEW
FRANCIS, George Son M 7 1864 Middlesex VIEW
FRANCIS, William Son M 2 1869 Middlesex VIEW
FRANCIS, Edward Son M 1 1870 Middlesex VIEW

Piece: 1321 Folio: 82 Page: 12 Registration District: Brentford Civil Parish: Chiswick Municipal Borough: Address: William St, Chiswick County: Middlesex

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Sep 2012 17:18

Just to answer my own question, Keziah isn't with her mother in 1851:

FRANCIS, Henry Head Married M 21 1830 Agricultural Labourer Hammersmith, Middlesex
FRANCIS, Catherine Wife Married F 22 1829 Ireland
FRANCIS, Henry Son M 1 1850 Chiswick, Middlesex
FRANCIS, Thomas Son M 0 (2 WKS) 1851 Chiswick, Middlesex

Piece: 1699 Folio: 427 Page: 26
Registration District: Brentford
Civil Parish: Chiswick

Address: Phillipss Buildings, Chiswick County: Middlesex

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Sep 2012 17:13

Is it an error on the 1861 where it says she was born Ireland?

FRANCIS, Henry Head Married M 30 1831 Labourer Cheswick, Middlesex
FRANCIS, Catherine Wife Married F 28 1833 Garden Woman Ireland
FRANCIS, Keziah Daughter F 14 1847 Ireland
FRANCIS, Henry Son M 12 1849 Cheswick, Middlesex
FRANCIS, Thomas Son M 8 1853 Cheswick, Middlesex
FRANCIS, James Son M 7 1854 Cheswick, Middlesex
FRANCIS, Davis Son M 4 1857 Cheswick, Middlesex
FRANCIS, George Son M 2 1859 Cheswick, Middlesex
FRANCIS, Sarah Daughter F 0 (4M) 1861 Cheswick, Middlesex

Piece: 780 Folio: 148 Page: 9
Registration District: Brentford
Civil Parish: Chiswick

Address: 18, William Street, Chiswick County: Middlesex

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Sep 2012 17:10

Hello Jean, have you found Catherine in the 1851?

When did Catherine marry Henry Francis?

Jean

Jean Report 22 Sep 2012 17:03

Keziah Welch was born in 1846 in the Union Workhouse in Brentford. she turns up aged 14 living with her mother Catherine and step father Henry Francis in Chiswick.

I have looked for ages over the past few years on Ancestry but cannot find her anywhere on the 1851 census.

her mother Catherine Welch was born in Ireland, not sure what part.

any help greatly appreciated.

thanks
jean