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Sorry have to go, it's getting late here.
Hope this is of some use in your research.
Regards
Catherine

Yeah i,m stuck on the wright family at the minute, been such a common name...they came original from Suffolk area, Uggeshill and mundford....got to James Wright 1792 who married Hannah,

There is a print out from c1764 with a Matthew Wright who married and a Sarah on the 17th September 1737.

1911 mother, Emma is now married to William George Goldsmith:-

1911 England Census about Emma Goldsmith
Name: Emma Goldsmith
Age in 1911: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ickborough, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: 20 Priory Road, Croydon, Surrey
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 1
Estimated Marriage Year: 1910
Registration district: Croydon
Registration District Number: 39
Sub-registration district: West Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 3331
Household Members:
Name Age
William George Goldsmith 39 - Groom
Emma Goldsmith 42
George Harold Wright 17 - Stepson (occupation:- Photographer)
Dorothy Edith Wright 5 - Stepdaughter

States:- married under one year.
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Ivy May Wright is in service and Arthur E. Wright is in the orphanage.

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First marriage:-
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Emma Wright
Name: Emma Wright
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Spouse Name: Harry Wright
Spouse Age: 34
Status: Widower
Occupation: Sewing Machine Agent
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Apr 1889
Parish: Northfields St John
Borough: Ealing
Father Name: Alfred Wright
Occupation: Shoemaker
Spouse Father Name: James Wright
Occupation: Gentleman
Register Type: Parish Register
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Second marriage:-
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Emma Wright
Name: Emma Wright
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1910
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 549
Spouse:- William G Goldsmith

Just in case:-

1901 England Census about Grace G Wright
Name: Grace G Wright
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Harry Wright
Mother's Name: Emma Wright
Gender: Female
Where born: Ealing, London, England
Civil parish: Wallington
Ecclesiastical parish: Beddington St Mary the Virgin
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: Wolseley Cotts.

Occupation: (of father) Collector and Salesman Sewing Machines

Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Mitcham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 132
Piece: 654
Folio: 16
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Wright 46 - born: Islington, London
Emma Wright 33 - born: Iskboro, Norfolk
Grace G Wright 11
George H Wright 7
Ivy May Wright 5
Arthur E Wright 4 Months

Have had a look on ancestry but no army records showing on there. You could try the National Archives for Army records but, unfortunately lots of WW1 records were destroyed in WW2 when the building they were kept in was bomded so they may have been destroyed.

Possible for Grace??

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Grace Gertrude Wright
Name: Grace Gertrude Wright
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: 20th Feb 1890
Baptism Date: 9 Mar 1890
Father's Name: Harry Wright
Occupation: Machine Agent
Mother's Name: Emma Wright
Address:- 5 Oxford Road, Ealing
Parish or Poor Law Union: Northfields St John
Borough: Ealing
Register Type: Parish Registers

Think your right on the father been james gardiner, remember someone saying that name...but no one could be sure as no mothers name was forthcoming, in regards to Alexanders army records i m assuming i could get his records from somewhere???

As he seems to have been born abt.1891, then this could be him????

1901 Scotland Census about Alexander Gardiner
Name: Alexander Gardiner
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Margaret Gardiner
Gender: Male
Where born: Leith, edin
Registration Number: 685/3
Registration district: Canongate
Civil parish: Edinburgh Abbey
County: Midlothian
Address: 90 Easter Road
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 54
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1901_377
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Gardiner 54 born: Grangemouth, Stirling
Alfred Gardiner 16 born: Glasgow, Lanark (Apprentice Light Joiner)
Alexander Gardiner 11

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1891 Scotland Census about Alexr Gardiner
Name: Alexr Gardiner
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James Gardiner
Mother's Name: Margret Gardiner
Gender: Male
Where born: Leith, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 685/3
Registration district: Canongate
Civil parish: Edinburgh Greenside
County: Midlothian
Address: 90 Easter Road
ED: 18
Household schedule number: 5
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1891_346
Household Members:
Name Age
James Gardiner 53 born: Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire (Brass Finisher)
Margret Gardiner 44
James Gardiner 21 born: Dundee, Forfarshire (Plasterer)
George Gardiner 18 born: Dundee, Forfarshire (Fish & Ham Curer)
Alfred Gardiner 6
Alexr Gardiner 1

(still need that marriage certificate to confirm, or not !)

Catherine that is far more information than i could have expected to receive on Alexander before i even know anything about the family of Alexander, who i know serviced in the first days of ypes.

Definately born 1891 as here he is living in Surrey in 1911:-

1911 England Census about Alexander Gardiner
Name: Alexander Gardiner
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Birth Place: Leith, Midlothian, Scotland
Civil parish: Caterham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: The Guards Depot Caterham, Caterham
Marital Status: Single
Military unit: Scots Guards
Registration district: Godstone
Registration District Number: 38
Sub-registration district: Godstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Piece: 3270

..............states born Leigh, Midlothian and serving in the Scots Guards, so has to be him!

Thanks Catherine, useful info provided....

Death does look to be him as found this:-

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Alexander Gardiner
Name: Alexander Gardiner
Probate Date: 22 Jul 1942
Death Date: 28 May 1942
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: Llandudno

Reads:- Gardiner Alexander of Cobden Road South Norwood Surrey died 28th May 1942 at 66a Queens-Road Croyden Surrey Administration Llandudno 22 July to Grace Gertrude Gardiner widow.
Effects £201 18s.

This death would seem to fit with the death of Grace:-

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Alexander Gardiner
Name: Alexander Gardiner
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1942
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 967

...............so could it be that he was born later than you thought?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Grace G Gardiner
Name: Grace G Gardiner
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1966
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5a
Page: 671

As I said earlier, you need to buy the marriage certificate to go back with any certainty:-

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Alexander Gardiner
Name: Alexander Gardiner
Spouse Surname: Wright
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1916
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 534
Find Spouse: Grace G Wright

This will give you his father's name, if he knew it, and his occupation.
It will also give you his age, so you can work out his date of birth.

It will also give you her father's name and occupation etc. which will help find her ancestors.

Possible if he served in the Scots Guards?

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about Alexander Gardiner
Name: Alexander Gardiner
Regiment or Corps: Scot Gds
Regimental Number: 7801

States:-
Rank:- Private
Roll on which included:- SG/1/90
Discharged:- 23-07-15
Disembarkation Date:- 7-10-14
Correspondance Address:- 4 Markham Street, Kings Road, Chelsea, SW

pm received:-

Hi Catherine, he was married to Grace Wright b1890 not sure if he had any siblings though? I know he was in the army Royal Scots Guards, thats about all i know

1881 Scotland Census about Alexander Gardiner
Name: Alexander Gardiner
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William Gardiner
Mother's Name: Isabella Gardiner
Gender: Male
Where born: South Leith, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 692/2
Registration district: Leith South
Civil parish: Leith South
Town: Leith
County: Midlothian
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 71
Line: 14
Roll: cssct1881_298
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or

1891 Scotland Census about Alexander Gardiner
Name: Alexander Gardiner
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: David Gardiner
Mother's Name: Margt Gardiner
Gender: Male
Where born: S Leith, Edinr
Registration Number: 692/2
Registration district: Leith South
Civil parish: Leith South
County: Midlothian
Address: Restalrig Village
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 1A
Household schedule number: 137
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1891_367
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His marriage certificate will give you his father's name and occupation.

There are a couple of possible census entries so to absolutely sure you will need the marriage certificate which will also give you names of witnesses who may be relatives.

Any idea if he had any siblings?

Hello Richard, you will need to use Scotland's People http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

It's pay per view but reasonably priced credits.

You may hit lucky on FamilySearch https://www.familysearch.org/ (free)

But, can you tell us more about him, like occupation, who he married? There are a lot of Alexander Gardiners around (and that's without spelling variants)

Have you found him on any census?