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Charles William Cave 1891 Census ??

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Trac

Trac Report 2 Oct 2012 06:06

Hello.
I have just received Fanny Minna Cave death certificate so exciting.
Died 20th February 1892
44 years old.
Living at 20 Palmerston Road Hampstead she was the wife of Charles William Cave 1856.My Great Grand father.
Her name on the citerficate is Fanny Minna Matthews Cave.
Should i be able to find a marriage for her and Charles ???
Is it possible to find a birth for Edward Walter born about 1875 Stepney.
Thankyou for any more help with this Trac

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 07:55

Trac


jax posted a census that said her birthplace was Tatton ......... I think that was from findmypast


I looked at the transcription on ancestry, and it says Tubbon



different modern-day transcribers trying to read poor handwriting!


There is a village called Tatton or Tatton Hall in Cheshire .................. but I can't think of any other place.



someone else may have a better knowledge than I do.



sylvia

Trac

Trac Report 19 Sep 2012 07:36

Hi in the one of the 1891 census when she is fanny Care it dose say she was born in Tatton is ther such a place ? i have ordered her deth certificate also Edwad Walters marriage certificate just for a start Thankyou from Trac

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 07:05

BTW


ancestry has transcribed Fanny's birth place as Tubbon


The handwriting on the image is all but impossible to read ............... it looks like Tabbor or Tubbor


?????

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 07:01

???????????????????????


The only Minna Fanny born between 1850 and 1856, and registered wtih both the names


Births Dec 1853 (>99%)

FENNINGS Minna Fanny St Geo E 1c 425



possibly/probably just a wild guess on my part!!


A tree on ancestry has Minna Fanny Fennings marrying Joseph Thomas Williams in 1883.

Trac

Trac Report 19 Sep 2012 06:34

So if i order her death certificate it will be of use to see who was there at her death I think that would be worth it It could also give her address Maybe thats why he said he was a batchelor he never married her ooo i love this stuff Thankyou you are soo kind with your help Trac

jax

jax Report 19 Sep 2012 06:07

If she just took his name this could be her death?

Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%)
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Cave Fanny Minna M 44 Hampstead 1a 662

jax

jax Report 19 Sep 2012 05:52

I am wondering if he was Fannys son so he was'nt born Cave

That marriage I posted for Charles and Frances may not be correct

Trac

Trac Report 19 Sep 2012 05:48

O sooo good i will order his death certificate for 1917 and then try and find a birth for him in about 1875 thankyou sooo much !!! It is so good to find a new way to do some diging I am realy great full for the new slant on things!

jax

jax Report 19 Sep 2012 05:15

Sylvia

The death from CWGC says his father was charles and his birth on the 1901 matches with where Edward Care was living in 1891

Trac

Trac Report 19 Sep 2012 05:15

Hi
Thankyou for your help i have this Edwards Birth certificate he was born to a William Adderson Cave and a Elizabeth Bird in July 1849 in Kings Lynn Daniell had 3 brothers that i know of,
William 1820 ?
Thomas 1823 ?
Charles 1825 ?
Daniel 1829 have his death and marriage certificate
Not sure of William and Charles all the brothers were born in Sibbertofft and they were carpenters.
I realy am lost on this any suggestions at all i will be great full for could he have been on of the brothers children.
Thankyou from Tracie

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 04:55

????????????????


1851 Census

Name: Edward Cave
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Cave
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Cave
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Lynn, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Kings Lynn
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Registration district: Kings Lynn
Sub-registration district: Kings Lynn Middle

William Cave 27
Elizabeth Cave 26
Edward Cave 1
Emma Cave 6 Mo







I was looking at seeing if I could connect Edward Walter and/or his father Edward William back to Daniel




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 04:51

It IS Edward Walter on the image

1871 Census

Name: Edward Walker Cave
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellenor Cave
Gender: Male
Where born: Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington

Edward Walker Cave 21 Upholsterer
Ellenor Cave 22 b'ca 1849, Deptford, Kent, Dressmaker





sylvia

jax

jax Report 19 Sep 2012 04:46

CAVE, EDWARD WALTER
Rank:PrivateService No:SS/8803Date of Death:30/01/1917Age:40Regiment/Service:Army Service Corps No. 9 Labour Coy. Grave ReferenceScreen Wall. 35427.CemeteryEAST LONDON CEMETERY, PLAISTOW
Additional Information:

Son of Charles Cave; husband of Gertrude Atherley (formerly Cave), of 53, Rathcoole Gardens, Hornsey, London.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 04:40


Edward Wm Cave 41 b.ca 1850, Lynn, Norfolk, Manager for Provision Merchant
Eleana Cave 41 b.ca 1850, Deptford, London
Alice Emma Cave 19 b.ca 1872, Paddington, London, Cashier Provision Merchant
Eleanor Eliz Cave 17 b.ca 1874, Paddington, Dressmaker Assiatant
Edward W Cave 15 Clerk Provision Merchant
Mary Manning 14 Servant

Address:- 63 Barndale Rd

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 04:36

?????????????

Edward Walter in 1891????


1891 Census

Name: Edward W Cave
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward Wm Cave
Mother's Name: Eleana Cave
Gender: Male
Where born: Paddington, London, England

Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington

Edward Wm Cave 41
Eleana Cave 41
Alice Emma Cave 19
Eleanor Eliz Cave 17
Edward W Cave 15
Mary Manning 14





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 04:34

Marriage of Edward Walter

Marriages Jun 1897 (>99%)

Cave Edward Walter W. Ham 4a 205
Southan Gertrude Ann W. Ham 4a 205






sylvia

jax

jax Report 19 Sep 2012 04:21

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Edward Walter Cave
Name: Edward Walter Cave
Birth Place: Bow
Residence: Plaistow, Essex
Death Date: 30 Jan 1917
Death Location: Home
Enlistment Location: London
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Army Service Corps
Number: SS/8803
Type of Casualty: Died
Theatre of War: Home

jax

jax Report 19 Sep 2012 04:20

Same person but place of birth is different

Household transcription
1901 census

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Person: CAVE, Edward W
Address: 3, Milton Villas, Carnarvon Road, Woodford St Mary, Woodford

Disability Where born Image
CAVE, Edward W Head Married M 25 1876 Butcher
Kilburn, London VIEW
CAVE, Gertrude A Wife Married F 25 1876
Walthamstow, Essex VIEW
CAVE, Edward H Son M 2 1899
Woodford, Essex VIEW
CAVE, Patric C Son M 0 (5 MOS) 1901
East Ham, Essex VIEW

jax

jax Report 19 Sep 2012 04:16

Household transcription
1911 census

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Person: CAVE, Edward Walter
Address: 28 Chingford Road W Stow
CAVE, Edward Walter Head Married15 years M 34 1877 Butcher Bow VIEW
CAVE, Gertrude Wife Wife F 35 1876 Housewife Walthamstow VIEW
CAVE, Edward Henry Son M 12 1899 School Boy Woodford VIEW
CAVE, Patrick Charles Son M 10 1901 School Boy East Ham VIEW
CAVE, Kathleen Mary Daughter F 8 1903 School Girl Woodford VIEW