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Thank you Tess. I had found some of the same but thank you especially for the Dolphyn ones. That spelling variation hadn't occurred to me. Went to bed far later after surfing well into the night :-D

I have no certs for any of the Dolphin family. Aside from the cost of buying certs which I just can't do, the Dolphin side is one I am only just beginning to build as it's more of a twig rather than a branch. :-D

And I've just noticed what time you went to bed this morning. :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Thank you for looking for/finding so much for me.

Looked again for a marriage on freebmd.

Found William Dolphin married Sarah Elazabeth Blazey 4/1896 in Birmingham.


Have also made a guess as to William Dolphin in 1881 Census.

Found one living in Lower Trinity Street, Aston.

parents William and Bridget, sister Emma and baby brother George.


1891 Census Bridget is a Widow living in Highfield street Aston (Bordesley) with her sons, Willaim 12, and George 10.

Bridget Dolphin dies aged 42 4/1893 in Aston.

1901 Living in Barford Street is George Dolphyn.

He is brother-in-law to Walter Murthey aged 34 and his wife Emma aged 30.
(This looks like Emma Dolphyn, sister of William and George)


Haven't found William yet, but a cople of houses are empty in Barford Street on night of Census.

One of them marked "not there on Sunday/Monday night).

Time for bed.

Have you got marriage cert. for Elizabeth and William. The only William Dolphin to Elizabeth I have found in Birmingham is in 1891 to Elizabeth Brown.
1911 Census states married for 16 years, so not quite right.
Have you got any birth certs of the children of William and Elizabeth?

(Off to have another look at freebmd)

You are right. It makes sense for it to be them. I have someone I can contact who is related to the Dolphins and lives still in the same area to ask if there is any talk within the family of a change of name or something dodgy.

Hubby, kids and I were out with friends today and I can't even remember how the conversation came around to it but I found out my friend's mom was Dolphin by birth and her nan was Mason.

Hubby has both names marrying into his family in the same quite small rural area around what was then Warwickshire/Worcestershire so I've been working since I got home to expand the names I have on hubby's tree and building a tree for my friend.

Thanks for your help.

xxJ

No, even with any accent I can't see how he could have misheard Doody for Dolphin......can't even see how he could have written it in his notes to copy up.

But the Doodys just seem to appear on the 1901 and then vanish.

Thanks for the added info Christina.

I'm keeping an open mind and not totally discounting that you have the right family. I'm practising both names in my best Brummie accent and if it is my family that enumerator must have been on the Ansells :-D

Only William Doody births 1897 - 1998 are these three.....



Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Doody William Wolverhampton 6b 519

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Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Doody William Henry Wolstanton 6b 115

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Births Dec 1898 (>99%)
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Doody William Samuel Newport, Sh. 6a 713



And they are all on the 1901/1911 census with their parents.

Hi Christina,

Thanks for this. I've looked at the image and as you say it is definitely Doody. And, I've possibly found both Williams on FreeBMD.

It was a brilliant possibility. The last time I was looking for my Busby family in the 1901, the transcription was nothing I could ever have guessed at.

Thanks again for looking.

xJ

This one is Doody on the image, but I can't see this family in 1911 and William senior is a Blacksmith's Striker.


1901 England Census
Name: William Doody
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Doody
Mother's Name: Eliza Doody
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113a
Piece: 2836
Folio: 134
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
William Doody 24
Eliza Doody 22
William Doody 3

All born in Birmingham.


Edit: Can't see a birth reg for either William. There is a William Henry Doody, but he is accounted for in 1911.

Thank you PH.

I'm still looking. I have wracked my brains for alternate spellings but no luck yet.

For a clearer picture.............here is the FMP version...

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: DOLPHIN, Elizabeth
Address: 23 Court 2 Brearley St Birmingham

DOLPHIN, W Head Married M 33 1878 Blacksmith's Stricker Birmingham CB VIEW
DOLPHIN, Elizabeth Wife Married16 years F 31 1880 Birmingham CB VIEW
DOLPHIN, William Son M 13 1898 School Birmingham CB VIEW
DOLPHIN, John Son M 9 1902 School Birmingham CB VIEW
DOLPHIN, Alfred Son M 6 1905 School Birmingham CB VIEW
DOLPHIN, Albert Son M 3 1908 Birmingham CB VIEW
DOLPHIN, Elizabeth Daughter F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Birmingham CB VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 18093
Reference: RG14PN18093 RG78PN1097 RD384 SD3 ED33 SN41
Registration District: Birmingham
Sub District: St George
Enumeration District: 33
Parish: Birmingham
Address: 23 Court 2 Brearley St Birmingham
County: Warwickshire

Hi All

I've found family in 1911. Posted below for ref.

Don't know what it is about Aston/Birmingham in 1901 but I frequently can't find entries on GR. Would some kind soul please see if they can be found via another site. I'm fairly certain that the family did not move around much. I have confirmed that W stands for William as his mark on the 1911 is confirmed for William Dolphin. Aston/Birmingham came under Warwickshire at this time. Thanks.xJ

1911 Census Household Record

Household information
Address 23 Court 2 Brearley St Birmingham
Parish Birmingham
Town Birmingham
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 3
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN18093 RG78PN1097 RD384 SD3 ED33 SN41
Administrative County Warwickshire
Registration District Birmingham
Registration Sub District St George
Enumeration District 33
Householder 1
Name W Dolphin
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 33
Estimated Year of Birth 1878
Occupation Blacksmith's Stricker
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Steel Toy Works
Place of Birth Birmingham Cb
Nationality British Subject
Householder 2
Name Elizabeth Dolphin
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 16 Years
Total Children Born Alive 6
Children Still Living 5
Children Who Have Died 1
Gender F
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Birmingham Cb
Householder 3
Name William Dolphin
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1898
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Birmingham Cb
Householder 4
Name John Dolphin
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1902
Occupation School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Birmingham Cb
Householder 5
Name Alfred Dolphin
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1905
Occupation School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Birmingham Cb
Householder 6
Name Albert Dolphin
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1908
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Birmingham Cb
Householder 7
Name Elizabeth Dolphin
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 2 Months
Estimated Year of Birth 1911
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Birmingham Cb