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Signing off for the evening.Thankyou for all the help from everyone tonight.Viv

In passing, looks like Ellen lived in Ashcroft Rd. too! In 1911 at least:

1911 England Census
Name: Ellen Duckworth
Age in 1911: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: St Helens
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 70 Ashcroft St
Occupation: School
Registration district: Prescot
Registration District Number: 456
Sub-registration district: St Helens

Joseph Duckworth 35
Margaret Alice Duckworth 34
Margaret Ann Duckworth 15
Alice Duckworth 13
Ellen Duckworth 11
John Duckworth 9
William Duckworth 3
Elizabeth Duckworth

Hi Jan,yes I have looked on the electorial registers.I know what you mean there were a lot of boarders at that time,some coming over from Ireland to find work in the mines etc.I will look into more later listings re census information see what I come up with.My grandmother Ellen and Charles lived at 7 Somerset Street,Parr St Helens later on in their lives,this is the address my mum used to take us to to visit my gran as children.Viv

Thanks Catherine for this information for Edna,Agnes,Charles,Leo,Edward and Elizabeth.I will check all your references on my tree.I still have work to do on the Duckworth side i.e Elizabeth married an Edward Smith,but haven't got the info re marriage year,children's birth registries,also Agnes marriage to Jack Ashton.This side though I will leave till a later date.The Moran side is the one I'm working on at the moment.Viv

Have you tried looking at the electoral register to see who else was living at the address? I am sure you know this has to be done in person, registers usually being at the nearest main library.
I sympathise with this one, pretty tricky!
Jan

Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Moran Charles Duckworth Prescot 8b 1447
Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
Moran Edna Duckworth Prescot 8b 1402
Births Jun 1926 (>99%)
Moran Leo Duckworth Prescot 8b 1404
Births Jun 1930 (>99%)
Moran Elizabeth Duckworth Prescot 8b 1314
Births Mar 1932 (>99%)
Moran Harry Duckworth Bury 8c 677
Births Mar 1934 (>99%)
Moran Agnes Duckworth Prescot 8b 1262
Births Dec 1936 (>99%)
MORAN Edward Duckworth St.Helens 8b 1153

On the marriage certificate it stated that Charles was residing at 16,Ashcroft Street, St Helens, Lancashire.On the 1900 census a family named Potter was residing in this house and I haven't any information as to the 1911census as yet.Viv

Witnesses to the marriage of Charles and Ellen were Alice Duckworth,Ellen's Sister and James Henry Bailey.Viv

Vivian, you need to answer queries posed if we are to help at all. Who were the witnesses to the marriage of Charles and Ellen?
Jan

Yes I have this,It is my grandparents marriage registry numbers.Re childen,I know my mum was one of the children,Agnes,Elizabeth and Leonard,known as Leo I knew also,but have only found out recently about Edward and Charles,apparently both died within a year of birth.Would appreciate any other help on the Moran ancestry.Viv

Also found this one, occ coal hewer, but haven't found them 1901 as yet:

Who were the witnesses on the marriage cert?

1891 England Census

Name: James Moran
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rose A Moran
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Bootle
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Walton
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton

James Moran 47
Rose A Moran 41
James Moran 12
William Moran 10
Catherine Moran 3

1911 in the right area but no Charles with family

Name: James Moran
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: County Longford, Ireland
Civil parish: St Helens
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 15 Liverpool St St Helens Lanc
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Laberor Plate Glass Wks
Registration district: Prescot
Registration District Number: 456
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 22770
Household Members: Name Age
James Moran 46
Catherine Moran 34
John Moran 15
Andrew Moran 7
Mary Moran 4
Marget Moran 3
James Moran 10

I AM TRYING TO FIND RELATIONS ON THE MORAN SIDE OF MY TREE.ALL I HAVE IS CHARLES MORAN MARRIED ELLEN DUCKWORTH 1920.ON THE MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE HE IS AGED 25 SO THEREFORE HE WAS BORN IN 1895.HIS FATHER WAS NAMED ON THE MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE AS JAMES MORAN-DECEASED OCCUPATION COAL HEAVER.CHARLES OCCUPATION WAS A GLASS CUTTER.THEY HAD CHILDREN ELIZABETH,AGNES,EDNA,LEONARD,EDWARD AND CHARLES AS FAR AS I KNOW.VIV