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Adopted or not?

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Gill

Gill Report 15 Sep 2012 16:04

I have a birth certificate for someone and , on the right hand edge of the certificate, outside the boxes, it has Adopted followed by the registrars name and signature. Can anyone tell me what this means please as I haven't seen it on any other birth certificate before.
Thanks in advance
Gill

Kim

Kim Report 15 Sep 2012 16:19

Try looking at the birth registration for this person, if adopted there will be more than one registration. The volume page number will have an S after it.

Good Luck

Kim

Gill

Gill Report 15 Sep 2012 16:31

Thanks for such a quick reply. I will do as you suggest.
The birth was registered only a month after the child was born . Because of family resemblances in photos, if the child was adopted, it is possible that the birth mother was single and her sister and brother in law adopted the baby as they wanted a child but the wife was possibly unable to have one due to severe epilepsy.
Many Thanks
Gill

Robert

Robert Report 15 Sep 2012 18:23

when someone is legal adopted, the birth is re-registered under there new name, and will only show in the register when adoption took place,which could be many weeks, months or years later.the registration district can also change as well, the only two things that it will show which is true to there original birth is the date and place.trying to find there new identity or trying to find who they were is most cases is near impossible,only the adoptee is privaleged with that information if they request it, when they reach the legal age to request it. i have several people in my tree who were adopted out of the family. i know there birth name,but i have know way of finding out who they became

Gill

Gill Report 15 Sep 2012 18:23

Hi Joan
This Birth certificate is exactly the same. The child was born in May 1938 and registered in June 1938 by the stated mother. I know that the stated parents married 2 years previously, so I can't see that its the case that the birth mother is the same but that the father was adopting.
I know this what happened with me. My mum was single when she had me, married 10 years later, and she and my new dad had to adopt me together.
I've checked the birth index and can only find one entry with no S at the end as well.
Very puzzling. If anyone has any ideas, I'd be grateful for them.
Many Thanks
Gill

Gill

Gill Report 15 Sep 2012 18:27

Thanks Robert for your response. i probably won't get any further with this one as, as you say, its impossible to get those other details, unless family members spill the beans and there aren't many from that era left now in my family.
Thanks
Gill

Thelma

Thelma Report 15 Sep 2012 19:16

I have a sister in law who was adopted.
I have a copy of her birth cert. with Adopted written.
there is no cross reference on the index.
I feel that it would not be allowed otherwise anyone
could trace adoptees.

Penny

Penny Report 15 Sep 2012 20:04

Gill, Kim is not correct in what she saying, a birth is registered once, either in one name or two ( child is often registered twice if parents are unmarried) So Jane brown and Roger Green have baby james, who features in the birth registers twice as James Green, and as James Brown.

A childs bith is registered in a birth name, and once adopted is registered in the adoption register, NOT birth registers so if Jenny Brown is born and cosequently adopted you will not find her new name ( whatever her adopteed parents call her) in the birth registers.

Some, (not all) children who are registered and then given for adoption have a letter added after their original birth registration to indicate there is a re-registration, in the adoption register

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 15 Sep 2012 20:49

As Penny said plus, The S after the page number on the birth index i believe started to appear in the mid 1950's,

On all occasions the page number is crossed out and replaced with a new number eg, 1234 /S

Roy

Amanda,

Amanda, Report 15 Sep 2012 21:19

Luckily my birth in 1959 does not show that I was adopted.
But I would be horrified if it did, not for myself but for an Aunt who had a baby that was adopted a few years later as her children do not know about it.

Gill, why not just look up the child you think might be the one that was adopted, if it doesn't shown up, you have your answer.

Kind regards
Amanda

Gill

Gill Report 15 Sep 2012 23:20

Hi Everyone, Thanks for all your helpful information. it has all made it a little clearer.
The child whose birth certificate I'm researching died a little while ago. I don't think she knew what the adopted on her birth certificate meant, if she ever saw it. Even though she knew I was doing the family tree, I probably wouldn't have asked her anyway, just in case.
Just to fill you in and round off the story. Her mother went off to London when she was 21 in 1931, got married in 1936, and apparently came back home with her husband, in time, to give birth to her daughter, in 1938. They moved in with her married sister and her family, and an unmarried sister.
Looking at old photos, she looks the double of the unmarried sister and nothing like her own mother. So this might be a flight of fancy, but it is possible that the unmarried sister had a baby which she gave to her sister, who as I said earlier, had severe epilepsy and possibly decided not to have a baby of her own. The unmarried sister had a life long relationship with a married man, who had a very ill wife who he obviously couldn't divorce.
There are only 2 people left now who might know and I'm a bit undecided at the minute whether to talk to them about it or leave things as they are.
Anyway, Thanks again for the help
Best regards
Gill :-)

elained

elained Report 16 Sep 2012 20:24

re adoption certificates. i was born in 1948 to married parents but mother died in 1949 so i was adopted by mothers sister and her husband.certificate in my orignal name says adopted on right hand side.dss lost my certificate in my new name ,i was adopted in may 1950

Kim

Kim Report 18 Sep 2012 15:17

I have two adopted children in my family tree, one was only register once with an S after the voulme number. The other one is registered tree times in the BMD,only one of the tree has an S after it. But I do know their birth and adopted names. Sorry for any mix up Gill.

Regards Kim